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« on: July 14, 2015, 11:40:43 AM »
I'm out at site for a couple days but should be back in town to make it, will do my best.
If you make it, any chance you can bring my SASC membership card with you? Would really appreciate it!
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« on: July 14, 2015, 09:48:27 AM »
Count me in! 
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« on: July 09, 2015, 10:39:51 AM »
I should add that nobody will care about this at local events. It might even pass at the Nationals, but you are definitely taking a chance at being protested. Especially if you are in the trophies.
However you definitely start to see protests at the regional level and most definitely at the National level (Canadian or US - I have worked on a protest committee and know this has happened for a fact!). This probability of protest increases if you trophy (contingencies, money etc. are at stake now as well as more prestige etc.)! At SCCA National Tours/Pros and Nationals it wouldn't fly at all.... no pun intended! Note that there are contingencies/money available at the regional level and even club level (Scion)!
From a rules perspective, there has to be a line somewhere and, as mentioned elsewhere, this is where it is: If the rules do not (explicitly) say you can do it, you cannot. This makes the rules as fair as possible for everyone.
How easy are these items to remove (even temporarily?)?
Note that if there are holes drilled they would not look very good cosmetically and technically they would not be legal either. However you could cover them up with tape to prevent corrosion and penetration if it rains etc. I doubt anyone would protest them, of course, since that would be considered a "wienie" protest.
My apologies about all the info but it's late at night and I have nothing better to do .... well, that isn't true either! hahaha....
Anyway, it is good you asked since it gives us an example to discuss and clarify how rules work - for all of us.
Thanks,
R
I was recently accepted into the Scion Racing Contingency, just waiting on all the material so it definitely makes sense to adhere to the rules. Come to think of it, I should probably contact them to change my class.
Parts aren't too bad to remove, but it would be moot as the rear bumper had to have chunks cut out in order to fit the rear aero...
Really helpful advice guys. I appreciate your helpful replies. I had a gut feeling that the the aero wasn't legal... Guess my question is answered.
Can you advise me on how to get in on the Scion contingency? Looking around I couldn't find any info on their 2015 program.
In my mind, the RS1.0 is an option, so I was thinking your parts were legal as they are something that Scion itself offers. What Reijo says about the S2000 CR contradicts that though. Cross STX off my list then...
If they are not legal... to keep them you need to go all the way to SM??
Go to the link below, complete the participation agreement and email/fax it to the addresses listed in the agreement. I kind of harassed them via email for replies, so I'm not sure if doing that would benefit you as well. You could probably also CC PRisden@beyondmg.ca, who is in charge of the SRCP (same person that will reply to your application) if you want to expedite the process. http://www.scion.ca/scion/en/lifestyle/racing-contingency Unfortunately, that seems to be the case. At least I can get that purrty big GT wing I've always wanted to slap onto my car! hehehe lol... As for being competitive, I still need a lot to work on anyways. Not really expecting to do well... but hey, sometimes it feels good to not be last :T.
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« on: July 09, 2015, 10:07:27 AM »
I should add that nobody will care about this at local events. It might even pass at the Nationals, but you are definitely taking a chance at being protested. Especially if you are in the trophies.
However you definitely start to see protests at the regional level and most definitely at the National level (Canadian or US - I have worked on a protest committee and know this has happened for a fact!). This probability of protest increases if you trophy (contingencies, money etc. are at stake now as well as more prestige etc.)! At SCCA National Tours/Pros and Nationals it wouldn't fly at all.... no pun intended! Note that there are contingencies/money available at the regional level and even club level (Scion)!
From a rules perspective, there has to be a line somewhere and, as mentioned elsewhere, this is where it is: If the rules do not (explicitly) say you can do it, you cannot. This makes the rules as fair as possible for everyone.
How easy are these items to remove (even temporarily?)?
Note that if there are holes drilled they would not look very good cosmetically and technically they would not be legal either. However you could cover them up with tape to prevent corrosion and penetration if it rains etc. I doubt anyone would protest them, of course, since that would be considered a "wienie" protest.
My apologies about all the info but it's late at night and I have nothing better to do .... well, that isn't true either! hahaha....
Anyway, it is good you asked since it gives us an example to discuss and clarify how rules work - for all of us.
Thanks,
R
I was recently accepted into the Scion Racing Contingency, just waiting on all the material so it definitely makes sense to adhere to the rules. Come to think of it, I should probably contact them to change my class. Parts aren't too bad to remove, but it would be moot as the rear bumper had to have chunks cut out in order to fit the rear aero... Really helpful advice guys. I appreciate your helpful replies. I had a gut feeling that the the aero wasn't legal... Guess my question is answered.
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« on: July 09, 2015, 09:59:52 AM »
I should add that nobody will care about this at local events. It might even pass at the Nationals, but you are definitely taking a chance at being protested. Especially if you are in the trophies.
I'm not exactly hoping to place high, or be in the trophies... but I do respect rules. I guess my question has been answered. 
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« on: July 08, 2015, 10:14:26 PM »
I just realized that I have some aero accents added to my car that may actually put me out of STX. I added the front/side/rear/trunk lips way before I had the intentions of Autocrossing the car.
Im sure it doesnt really make a big difference, and Im sure nobody really cares at local events... But with regionals/nationals does it matter? Its not like they're functional pieces that add more downforce...
I have a replica kit of the TRD front, side, rear, and trunk lips installed.
These pieces are not available in an OEM US/CDN catalog. However, they are offered as additions in the TRD Japan catalog as offered through Toyota AFAIK, and are available for order at most Toyota/Scion dealerships so long as they are willing/try hard to order the pieces in.
With that in mind, am I really out of STX and supposed to be in SM? Will anyone care at regionals/nationals if I class in STX? Its not like im hiding a blower/have other illegal performance mods.
But! Scion NA did introduce the FRS RS1.0 (Release series) this year, which does sport a similar TRD body kit. With that in mind, is there any leeway in that regard?
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
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« on: July 08, 2015, 12:21:29 AM »
Sign me up! Joseph G
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« on: May 19, 2015, 11:46:02 PM »
Thanks Nick! Found a couple of pictures of my car that I might snag for a signature or two!
Ill remember to link you if I do!
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