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Technical Talk / Re: 2018 STH Class?
« on: September 07, 2017, 12:04:25 PM »
This links the SCCA Solo Events Board conference call from back in Feb. that indicates a 1/1/2018 effective date....

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/020/306/17-fastrack-April-Solo.pdf?1490029181

I'm sure Reijo or Stephen or Tom or Ryan or.....can offer more.

At that point it was just a proposal, and I have not been able to find any follow up in subsequent Fastracks.  Hopefully there is some clarification shortly after SCCA Nationals.

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Other Events / Re: SCCA Solo Nationals info and course maps.
« on: September 06, 2017, 08:38:44 AM »
Way to go Ryan!!  And he laid down an amazing time on his victory lap, but had a cone thrown in.

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Other Events / SCCA Solo Nationals app
« on: August 29, 2017, 04:25:29 PM »
SCCA has some apps available for competitors and followers for some of their larger events, including Solo Nationals.  If you search for "SCCA National Solo" in either the android or apple stores  you should be able to find it plus it is free.  Contains the schedules, live results and run/work order and you can have it push notifications as required.  Follow the locals who are heading down as they try to bring home the big prize.

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SASC Events / Re: Sound at SASC Events
« on: July 04, 2017, 01:53:14 PM »
Well, sound limits are LIMITS....

Whether it's w.o.t. or liftoff and exhaust burble or B.O.V. release - the same limit applies.  Unless the meter calibration is off there's no need to apologize - you should be able to have sound meters everywhere on the course without anyone exceeding maximums.

Well, if we put a sound meter right behind the exhaust pipe of all cars, I guarantee all cars will fail.....every single one, even with stock exhaust.

So unless you have some valid scientific reason, that is just nonsense.  Maybe we should think of the children too ... and the world is going to end etc.  That's the same kind of reasoning.  Nonsense.

R

Seriously Reijo?! 

That's what you understood from what I wrote? 

Disappointing in the least, regardless of the respect I have for you.
 
Yeah, seriously ... your post came across as pretty offensive so I threw it back to you.  It came across as an f-u to me.  Very simple - back at ya!  :)

Anyway, it sounds like that was not your intention?
 
Therefore, let's get this straight then, exactly what did you mean to say?  The message did not get across obviously.  So, please clarify.

Reijo

I took SKI-R's comment to mean that if you put the meter anywhere along the track at the proper 50ft offset your car should be able to meet the limit, not just at the point of full throttle but also approaching corners or at the finish where people may be lifting off, or at locations where turbo BOV's would be opening.  We never know where each individual car is going to be making the most noise as even at a location where everyone is full throttle will be at a wide range of RPM's which will also be a major variable in the overall sound readings. 

I remember at Packwood in 2013 there was an rotary car that was having major backfires when he lifted the throttle, loud enough that you could hear it echo off the surrounding hills.  His sound readings were nothing special yet if he was running at YYC I guarantee the hotel would have been calling bylaw at the very least (or the police due to the sound of gunfire near the airport).  This is why it is important to recognize the noise of an entire run vs the reading on one side of one section of track.

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Technical Talk / Re: Electric converted cars
« on: June 21, 2017, 04:58:53 PM »
Ahh, but there is provision for electric power plants (non-hybrid) within EM (E-modified).

Reference section 18.1 Modified Production Based Vehicles and Appendix 1 Modified Class E (EM).

Good luck! Enjoy the build. Looking forward to seeing you compete down the road.
For once a seriously modified vehicle, not worried about sound limits.

Good catch Wayne, I was searching through section 18 for any mention of 'electrical' and neglected to look at Appendix A.  The snag being that 18.1.D.1 says that all "engines" must be derived from production automobiles.  This may limit options but I don't think it should be used to halt what sounds like a really interesting project.

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Technical Talk / Re: Electric converted cars
« on: June 21, 2017, 01:21:02 PM »
From what I have been able to gather there is not a current class for a car that has been converted to electrical power.  Both the Prepared and Modified classes are where that sort of a powertrain swap would normally fall but they rely on engine displacement to determine class and min weight (or a modifier for turbo/supercharger).  There is however the provision for local clubs to create a class to serve the local racing community (and a PAX to go with it)

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SASC Events / Re: YYC - WCMA Regional - Count as series Event?
« on: May 31, 2017, 07:27:23 PM »
One other bonus to having the championship cover 50% +1 event is that it avoids unbreakable ties since there will be at least one event that any two competitors are both at.  Without that you could have two people who win every event they attend and with the typical 'heads up' tiebreaker not being available.

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SASC Events / Re: How does SASC define novice eligibility?
« on: May 16, 2017, 01:10:49 PM »
I don't have a definitive answer for you but I can provide a bit of club history.  Between SASC and CSCC there has been a fairly consistent history of competitors voluntarily withdrawing from novice competition once they are generally competitive with the rest of the club.  This has often been after their first full season and has been viewed as helping encourage the raw novice drivers as they are then only competing against other drivers who are just learning the ropes.  Having said that, it is still a personal decision on whether you feel this is the right move or not and you should not feel pressured into it by any means.  Hopefully someone will be able to clarify the letter of the rule for you as well.

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Wow, 4 courses over 2 days.  That should be a great event put on by an awesome group.

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SASC Events / Re: April30, Course map discussion and availability.
« on: May 01, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
At Nationals, the Thu/Fri people get an even bigger advantage.  By Wed night, youtube has many videos of people running the courses, so you can get a good look at them run at speed.

The one thing at Nationals is that there is no advantage for the Thu/Fri people since there is only in-class competition so no matter what you are on a level playing field with the people you are competing with.

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Technical Talk / Re: New project?
« on: April 19, 2017, 10:31:32 AM »
Maybe Harvey won a Tour or a Pro out east?  I recognize the name but don't know him nor have met him.

He seems to be a fairly consistent top 10 runner at nationals in BS, CS and STR over the last 15 years (that's as far back as the online SCCA results go)

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Technical Talk / Re: New project?
« on: April 18, 2017, 08:58:14 AM »
I'm quite confused Terry, first you say that bumpstops are very important then you tell Stephen that his idea about bumpstops is nonsense.  What he said about the bumpstops is the exact reason they are important as you go from a relatively softly sprung car to an extremely stiffly sprung one in an instant (and in many cases will break the tires loose)

On a side note, when did Chris Harvey win nationals?

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Technical Talk / Re: 2017 Current Helmet stds
« on: April 06, 2017, 03:49:36 PM »
From the reading I have done seem like this is the common factor on each site I look at.

"M" is motorcycle Snell Rating, no Fire material in the helmet,

"SA" Special Application, Fire resistant material in the helmet,

They have the same impact testing standards but the fire retardant material.

Not sure if that is the truth or not.

The reading seemed like in a motorcycle crash you are ejected from the bike so little worry of fire to the rider,

Car... Well different story. You have to unbuckle and hope your not knocked out so you can get out.

A lot of the testing is similar but the different standards make adjustments to how they may be performed and for impact testing they seem to vary in what selection of anvils are used (size, shape and for some impact angle).  Anyone who is a nerd about this kind of thing can check out the FIA rules http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/l25_standards_for_helmets.pdf and the Snell standards http://www.smf.org/stds.  Interesting stuff if you are into the details.

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Technical Talk / Re: 2017 Current Helmet stds
« on: April 06, 2017, 09:36:58 AM »
Am I missing much (for autocross and the odd track junkie day at Castrol) going with an M2015 vs. an SA2015?

To the best of my knowledge the main difference between the two standards are that SA is designed for multiple impacts (with a roll cage being the main example) and are fire resistant.  Both standards are accepted for Autocross and Track Junkies so it comes down to personal comfort level.  I'd be happy running an M helmet at autocross but personally at the track I would want to have an SA with some type of head and neck restraint, but there are a wide range of opinions when it comes to safety gear.

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Technical Talk / Re: 2017 Current Helmet stds
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:14:02 AM »
Michelle is great. Nice to see it finally open up to ECE ratings. Makes all my motorcycle helmets legal now.

Careful, the ECE ratings appear to only be valid for SCCA, all of our events run under the ASN safety rules.

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