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Title: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Reijo on August 31, 2015, 01:40:57 PM
The Town of Fort Macleod just called me and mentioned that supposedly someone from our group may have driven over a lawn and damaged some lawn sprinklers in the neighbourhood adjacent to the airport.

I have not heard anything from our group nor did I see anyone over on the other side driving around (presumably looking for the airport?).

I want to be able to confirm that the damage was done by someone from our group.

Does anyone know about this?

Thanks,

Reijo
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: MurrayPeterson on August 31, 2015, 01:53:45 PM
Sounds extremely unlikely -- our access is only via the front drive, and that doesn't go anywhere near the neighbourhood houses/lawns.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: k1l4m on August 31, 2015, 03:51:20 PM
I do remember somebody (not part of our event) did come to the area where we pitted for the SoloPro school on a quad and rode back towards the houses.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: NickST on August 31, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
Was this during nationals?

Did they get a description of the vehicle at least? How much damage?

Might be worth it to just offer up the cash if it isn't too much; not doing so might cast a shadow on our relationship even if it wasn't one of the people participating in the event.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: James@SpecR on August 31, 2015, 05:39:50 PM
I do remember somebody (not part of our event) did come to the area where we pitted for the SoloPro school on a quad and rode back towards the houses.

I recall this as well.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Midnightsky on August 31, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
but that's totally our fault :o
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Canuck on September 01, 2015, 07:38:51 AM
but that's totally our fault :o

I do recall this one and the Macan driving on the side of the apron, but no one on people's lawn.  Evidence or hearsay, I say.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Terry Johns on September 01, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
Keeping this lot is the real issue, so rather than trying to find out who did, lets apologize and pay. Like RIGHT NOW.

This isn't who did it its about us keeping people sweet.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Reijo on September 01, 2015, 05:09:18 PM
I'll find out what this guy is claiming first before taking any other steps ... or even thoughts.   
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: jopete on September 02, 2015, 04:32:34 AM
The two young guys who checked in at 9 on Saturday went down the residential road first - don't know if that's significant.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Jackal on September 02, 2015, 09:49:18 AM
As I mentioned in another forum,  If the resident is certain that it is one of us,  then a description of the car with make and model would most certainly be at the ready.  If it happened early in the day,  I would have expected that they would have come forward at some point during the day to ask about the driver.

I am of the thought that without specific details,  yet a certainty it was us sounds a bit suspect...  if that is indeed the case.   

The town mostly loves us there,  as I was told by the lady that runs the campground. The motels fill up when they normally wouldn't, and the rest of the service industry there  makes money too.  While I wholly believe we are ambassadors of our sport and need to maintain that level of trust with the community,  I also don't believe in simply paying for damages based on loose details and speculation.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Terry Johns on September 02, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
I guess the difficulty is try to understand why this person has complained and what they want !

We need to encourage the FM city to find out what this person wants. Do they want us, gone, are they angry, do they want money. Any conflict resolution specialist will seek to ascertain what the offended person needs to fix the issue.

Although I respect the opinions of others who may not want to pay up, its of paramount importance that this doesn't become a justice issue, "we didn't do it so we don't need to pay", In the end we keep our eyes firmly fixed on our agenda, which is keeping the lot. And what ever we need to do including grovelling, we do.

This mustn't end up about who did it. Let's find out what these people need and fix it for them. That's taking the high ground.
 

Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Reijo on September 02, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
Exactly!  So I'm waiting to "hear" back from the person.  Actually the loudest complaint was from one of his neighbours who has a habit of complaining about us ... nothing new there.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Terry Johns on September 02, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
Your doing a great job Reijo.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: JB.STI on September 02, 2015, 02:10:21 PM
The fact of the matter is, whether it was one of the registered drivers, their guests, a spectator looking to gain a better vantage point, or it was someone entirely unrelated to our activities that caused the damage the homeowner apparently suspects or believes it was “us”.
No amount of discussion is likely to change that opinion. Realistically the damage likely would not have occurred had “we” not been there.

I’m not suggesting that we blindly pay any requested amount, but it would be best to come out of this situation as the group that took responsibility and acted quickly to remedy it. If doing that is a simple matter of paying for the damage to a couple of sprinkler heads… well, that’s a small price to pay really.

If there is the possibility a member here has significant experience in installing or repairing sprinkler systems please step up and help resolve this. Property quickly returned to pre-accident, working condition is always preferable to a bit of cash in hand and the hassle of completing the required work.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Reijo on September 02, 2015, 02:36:53 PM
At this point we cannot do much since we do not have the identity of the person nor the house location ... until he calls. 
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: NickST on September 02, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
The fact of the matter is, whether it was one of the registered drivers, their guests, a spectator looking to gain a better vantage point, or it was someone entirely unrelated to our activities that caused the damage the homeowner apparently suspects or believes it was “us”.
No amount of discussion is likely to change that opinion. Realistically the damage likely would not have occurred had “we” not been there.

I’m not suggesting that we blindly pay any requested amount, but it would be best to come out of this situation as the group that took responsibility and acted quickly to remedy it. If doing that is a simple matter of paying for the damage to a couple of sprinkler heads… well, that’s a small price to pay really.

If there is the possibility a member here has significant experience in installing or repairing sprinkler systems please step up and help resolve this. Property quickly returned to pre-accident, working condition is always preferable to a bit of cash in hand and the hassle of completing the required work.
This is what I was hinting at as well... it really doesn't matter who it was

Your doing a great job Reijo.
Also I second this!
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Reijo on October 14, 2015, 12:15:35 PM
Just spoke with Mr. Brost (sp?).

His house is the 2nd to last west one ... most westward one near the fence more specifically. 

That may be where our food vendor drove if I understood correctly ... over the lawn and broke a check/backflow valve apparently.

In any case, he had a spare one and fixed it himself - about an hour he said.  I asked for a cost and how we can reimburse him but he said it was no big deal and refused to take anything.  He just wanted to let us know what had happened. 

I think we will have to ensure any future vendors, competitors and guests will know where to go (e.g. a better map?) to come and watch, participate or otherwise.   We may still not be able to circumvent something like this happening again but perhaps we can minimize the risk of it happening again.

In any case, Mr. Brost was very cordial and friendly on the phone and said no offence was taken and all is ok.  He mentioned he realizes that there are many people who come to these and it is hard to control everyone (my paraphrasing).

So this is all settled now.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Tuna on October 14, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
How about a weather/wind proof sign which we raise and lower on event days?
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Canuck on October 14, 2015, 03:24:36 PM
I'm willing to help with the graphics...I do masquerade as a geography professor when I'm not playing with you folks.  Something that could be placed at the entrance to tell people where to be and not be and to sign the waiver that sort of thing.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Midnightsky on October 17, 2015, 01:31:58 PM
How about a weather/wind proof sign which we raise and lower on event days?

I think we need multiple signs for this.  I almost always feel lost when I come to Ft.Mcleod events and occasionally make a wrong turn or two on my way in.   The signs would be helpful to competitors and spectators alike.
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Tuna on October 17, 2015, 05:31:21 PM
Follow the signs to the airport...
Title: Re: CAC - damage to a neighbour's lawn/sprinklers?
Post by: Midnightsky on October 18, 2015, 10:46:11 PM
Follow the signs to the airport...

Been quite awhile since I've been down there, do not recall the airport signs specifically.  Event signs are always nice to have.