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Title: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 08, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
Schedule
1.   April 22 Sunday - YYC - Season Opening Practice / Novice School (Contingent on weather)
2.   April 28 Saturday - Fort Macleod - Practice / Novice School
3.   April 29 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #1
4.   May 05 Saturday - YYC - Solo Event #2
5.   May 06 Sunday - YYC - Solo Event #3
6.   May 12 Saturday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #4
7.   May 27 Sunday - YYC  - Ladies’ Day (Sponsored by Sunridge Mazda) (Sponsored by Sunridge Mazda)
8.   June 2 Saturday - YYC - RASE Performance Driving School Level C1 Day 1
9.   June 3 Sunday - YYC - RASE Performance Driving School Level C2
10.   June 10 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #5
11.   June 23 Saturday - YYC - WCMA Regional Solo Day 1 / Solo Event #6
12.   June 24 Sunday - YYC - WCMA Regional Solo Day 2 / Solo Event #7
13.   July 1 Sunday - YYC - Solo Event #8
14.   July 28 Saturday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9
15.   August 11 Saturday - YYC - 2-Day Challenge Event / Solo Event #10 (Sponsored by Overtime Rentals)
16.   August 12 Sunday - YYC - 2-Day Challenge Event (Sponsored by Overtime Rentals)
17.   August 25 Saturday - Fort Macleod - Practice Event
18.   August 26 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #11
19.   September 16 Sunday - YYC - Solo Event #12
20.   September 23 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #13
21.   September 30 Sunday   YYC - Solo Event #14
22.   October 14 Sunday - YYC - Season Closing Practice (Contingent on weather)
23.   October 28 Sunday   YYC - Season Closing Practice (Contingent on weather)

Updated:  March 6, 2018 (rev. 7)

We will also aim to have evening practice events at the YYC venue, information will be released at a later time.

NOTE: Attendance for YYC events will be capped at 110 drivers.


Daily Itinerary

Fort Macleod
7:30am – Course Setup
9:00am – On-Site Mandatory Check-In (with timing vehicle) & Vehicle Tech Inspection Close
9:15am – Guided Course Walk (aka Rookie Course Walk)
9:45am – Mandatory Drivers Meeting
10:00am – Timed Runs Begin
~4:00pm – Timed Runs Finish, Takedown & Cleanup

NOTE: Noise must be kept to a minimum before 10:00am as this is stipulated in our rental agreement for the venue.

YYC
7:00am – Gates Open & Course Setup
8:50am – Gates Close (for drivers only, spectators are still permitted)
9:00am – On-Site Mandatory Check-In (with timing vehicle) & Vehicle Tech Inspection Close
9:10am – Guided Course Walk (aka Rookie Course Walk)
9:30am – Mandatory Drivers Meeting
9:45am – Timed Runs Begin
~4:00pm – Timed Runs Finish, Takedown & Cleanup

NOTE: Anyone that has not checked in with the timing vehicle prior to 9:00am will not be allowed to run that day, no exceptions. Online registration is different from the on-site check-in with the workers in the timing vehicle. 


Championship Format
For those that wish to take part in the championship please read the following. Please note that participation in the championship is not mandatory.

1. STREET - All street classes
2. STOUR – All Street Touring (ST) classes, Classic American Muscle (CAM) classes and Solo Spec Coupe (SSC)
3. PREPMOD – All Prepared classes, Street Prepared (SP) classes, Street Modified (SM) classes, Modified classes and SSR
4. LADIES 
5. ROOKIE1
6. OPEN/CHALLENGE – The catchall/fun class (PAX of 1.0)

1. A Rookie is defined as someone who is a 1st year regular participant. Previous year random/occasional participation still allows for Rookie qualification. 3rd year participant no longer qualifies for Rookie, regardless of the number of events. Any 1st year regular participant does not qualify for 2nd year Rookie participation.

Scoring will be based on a best 7 of 14 events format and a minimum of two (2) scores must be used from each venue (Fort Macleod & YYC). Scoring within each of the above superclasses will be based on PAX/RTP of the applicable class. All of the day’s count as a single event except practice events.

PAX/RTP values can be found here: https://www.autoxandtrack.com/scca-autocross-2018-pax-index-comparison/ (https://www.autoxandtrack.com/scca-autocross-2018-pax-index-comparison/)

Prizes
Top 1 driver from each of the above mentioned superclasses will receive a jacket
Top 3 drivers from each of the above mentioned superclasses will receive a trophy


Fee Structure

Fort Macleod Airport
•   $30 – Members1 Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $40 – Members1 Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)
•   $40 – Non-Members Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Non-Members Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)

YYC
•   $40 – Members1 Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Members1 Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Non-Members Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $80 – Non-Members Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)

Walk-up registrations at YYC will not be permitted (must have pre-registered online).

CASH WILL NO LONGER BE ACCEPTED AT ANY SASC EVENTS. Online payment via credit card, pre-paid credit card or Visa debit card is preferred, however on site e-transfer payments (send to pay.sasc@gmail.com) will also be accepted, a screen shot of the e-transfer must be shown to the workers at the onsite checkin.



1. Members of either the SASC or another WCMA Affiliated Club. Membership cards are to be shown at the on-site check in in order to be eligible for discount. No card, no discount, no exceptions. 


Membership
$50 – Single   
$75 – Family

Sign up for a membership here:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/southern-alberta-solosport-club-sasc-membership-923684 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/southern-alberta-solosport-club-sasc-membership-923684)


Event Sign-Up
Registration will be on MSREG, please feel free to sign up here:
April 22 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-practice-novice-school-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-109084 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-practice-novice-school-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-109084)
April 28 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159)
April 29 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270)
May 5 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-2-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-597466
May 6 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-3-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-166135
June 10 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-5-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-817643
June 23 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-wcma-regional-solo-day-1-event-6-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-110067
June 24 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-wcma-regional-solo-day-2-event-7-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-051075
July 1 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-solo-event-8-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-643825
July 28 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-9-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-926874
August 11 - msreg.com/sasc10-fatkatday1 (http://msreg.com/sasc10-fatkatday1)
August 12 - msreg.com/fatkatday2 (http://msreg.com/fatkatday2)
August 25 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-event-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-116671
August 26 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-11-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-071631
September 16 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-12-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-409809
September 23 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-13-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-943311
September 30 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-14-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-042620

Sound Policy
We have a strict sound policy; The measurement will be taken at a point where the vehicle can reasonably be expected to be under load at full throttle. The measuring point will be 50 feet from the edge of the course using an ANSI Type 2 sound meter set to “A” weighting, “Slow” response. The microphone will be placed 3-4 feet above ground level, positioned perpendicular to vehicle direction of travel. Measurement will be taken at a minimum of 1 sound station but usually 2, rules apply for both stations.

If a vehicle registers a reading between 91.0-92.9dB the driver(s) will be given a courtesy warning that they are near the limit.

If a vehicle registers a reading at 93.0dB or greater the driver must make a mechanical change to the vehicle (ex. install a turn-down1, install a silencer, close an exhaust valve(s)2 etc.), the mechanical change must be shown to and accepted by the Event Chair or other SASC Executive member prior to the next run. A “mechanical delay” is permissible to make this change. If during the next run the driver(s) registers a second reading at 93.0dB or greater that vehicle will not be allowed to continue running (for both drivers in case of a two driver car).

Vehicles that register below the 92.9dB maximum in the measured section(s) of the course but are found to be excessively loud (eg. exhaust backfire, tire squeal etc.) in other sections of the course may also not be allowed to continue running if so deemed by the Event Chair or other SASC Executive member.

Please note that this also applies to showroom stock vehicles, we are aware that there are a very small handful of unmodified cars (ex. Porsche 911 GT3 and Ford Mustang 350R) that can exceed the 92.9dB maximum, these vehicles must still adhere to the sound policy. 

Drivers of vehicles that blow over within their first two runs will receive their money back should they be unable to make a successful mechanical change and not able to continue their runs in a different vehicle. If the vehicle blows over after the first two runs refunds will not be issued.

Our sound policy is based on the SCCA’s which can be found in Appendix 1 of the rules located here: https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules

1. Turndowns can only be installed pointing directly upwards, downwards, or rearwards, pointing the turndown 90° away from the sound meter is not allowed.
2. Exhaust valves that are adjustable electronically via the push of a button inside the vehicle are acceptable.



Rules & Regulations
•   No alcohol or drugs at the venue, zero tolerance
•   No stunting/drifting/burnouts/hooning at any of our events
•   You must obey all posted speed limits and drive respectfully on surrounding roads, those seen stunting, speeding or driving recklessly will be banned from future events
•   This is a volunteer based sport, in order to drive you must also work, those that don’t work their assignment both in the morning and afternoon will not be welcome back
•   When competing, your personal vehicle insurance is void, if you attempt to make a claim that is considered insurance fraud. In the event of an incident the SASC will fully cooperate with insurance companies. The SASC carries insurance to protect the venue.

The ASN Autoslalom regs can be found here:
http://www.asncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ASN-2017-Autoslalom-Regulations-R.pdf (http://www.asncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ASN-2017-Autoslalom-Regulations-R.pdf)

Valid helmets for Autoslalom competition in the 2018 season are:

•   FIA 8860-2004
•   FIA 8860-2010
•   Snell 2015 SA, or 2015 M
•   Snell 2010 SA, 2010 SAH, or 2010 M
•   Snell 2005 SA, or 2005 M (expiry 31.12.2018)
•   SFI Foundation 31.1/2015
•   SFI Foundation 31.1/2010
•   SFI Foundation 31.1/2005 (expiry 31.12.2018)
•   SFI Foundation 31.1A or 31.2A (expiry 31.12, 2015)
•      ECE R22.05 (10 years from manufacturing date of helmet)


Starting in 2018 all helmets must pass a tech inspection, acceptable helmets will have a sticker affixed allowing their use in the 2018 season.

SCCA Rules & Car Classing Information can be found here:
https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules (https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules)


Tech & Helmet Inspection
All vehicles will be checked by the Tech Steward or designate before they are allowed to compete, once a vehicle passes tech inspection a sticker is affixed to the inside of the windshield allowing the vehicle to compete for the duration of the 2018 season. A Tech Inspection includes but is not limited to:

•   Vehicle is in the correct class
•   No loose objects inside the passenger compartment
•   Static brake test
•   Battery is secure (no bungee cables/cords allowed)
•   No leaks
•   No excessive wheel play
•   A valid helmet (a sticker will be affixed to the helmet after inspection, sticker is valid for the duration of the 2018 season) 

The vehicle owner/driver is still ultimately responsible for the condition of the vehicle and must ensure that it is safe to operate.


Racing Numbers

If you would like to reserve a permanent set of racing numbers for the season please see the thread below for rules.

http://forums.sascsolo.com/index.php?topic=963.0 (http://forums.sascsolo.com/index.php?topic=963.0)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: MurrayPeterson on March 08, 2018, 09:39:22 AM
As a driver aid, the timing system will display a bit more info on the display signs:

1. A leading minus ("-") sign indicates one or more cone penalties
2. A leading letter "d" indicates that you were called off course on the run

Of course, late penalty calls won't be displayed -- the penalty has to be entered into the computer before your car crosses the finish line and the time+penalty is sent to the display.

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Robp201 on March 08, 2018, 10:08:16 AM
Thanks for posting Tom!!

So just to Clarify, Some one like say Greg and I who were 1st time rookies last year but we ran almost all events of last years season is now out of the rookie correct?

Thanks again for all the work the board does to keep this sport going!

 
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: nnywg on March 08, 2018, 10:14:04 AM
Standard practice in the 3 years I've been here - Rookie is 2 seasons from first event, regardless of frequency of events participated in during that time.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 08, 2018, 10:21:34 AM

So just to Clarify, Some one like say Greg and I who were 1st time rookies last year but we ran almost all events of last years season is now out of the rookie correct?



Standard practice in the 3 years I've been here - Rookie is 2 seasons from first event, regardless of frequency of events participated in during that time.

As you guys were regular participants in your first year you would therefore no longer qualify for rookie status in your second year. By the end of a full season of autocross we believe that competitors know the ropes (the importance of a course walk, looking ahead, proper tires etc.). If someone just does a couple events in their first season they would still qualify for rookie status in their second season.

I hope that helps.

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: nnywg on March 08, 2018, 10:27:31 AM
No more Westerner events - or just no more joint SASC/CSCC championship?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 08, 2018, 10:31:33 AM
No more Westerner events - or just no more joint SASC/CSCC championship?

No more joint championship, the CSCC may end up having some Westerner dates but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: JamesTCallaghan on March 08, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
No more Westerner events - or just no more joint SASC/CSCC championship?

I’m in charge of that. Might do 2-3 Westerner events max.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Bitters on March 08, 2018, 12:17:31 PM

Scoring will be based on a best 7 of 14 events format with the requirement of attending at least 2 events at each venue (Fort Macleod & YYC). Scoring within each of the above superclasses will be based on PAX/RTP of the applicable class. All of the day’s count as a single event except practice events.


So as that reads, I could attend all events, and only use my best scores from YYC (and none from FM) towards my championship scoring, however, I would need to ATTEND at least two FM events?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Robp201 on March 08, 2018, 12:30:18 PM

So just to Clarify, Some one like say Greg and I who were 1st time rookies last year but we ran almost all events of last years season is now out of the rookie correct?



Standard practice in the 3 years I've been here - Rookie is 2 seasons from first event, regardless of frequency of events participated in during that time.

As you guys were regular participants in your first year you would therefore no longer qualify for rookie status in your second year. By the end of a full season of autocross we believe that competitors know the ropes (the importance of a course walk, looking ahead, proper tires etc.). If someone just does a couple events in their first season they would still qualify for rookie status in their second season.

I hope that helps.

Yup totally, thanks for clarifying!
Both Greg and I figured we would not be rookies anyways but figured we would ask incase someone else was wondering too.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Type_Yarr on March 08, 2018, 01:03:11 PM

Scoring will be based on a best 7 of 14 events format with the requirement of attending at least 2 events at each venue (Fort Macleod & YYC). Scoring within each of the above superclasses will be based on PAX/RTP of the applicable class. All of the day’s count as a single event except practice events.


So as that reads, I could attend all events, and only use my best scores from YYC (and none from FM) towards my championship scoring, however, I would need to ATTEND at least two FM events?

It might need to be reworded, but the intent is that a minimum of 2 scores be used from each venue. Similar to last year's championship scoring requirement.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Bitters on March 08, 2018, 01:30:47 PM

Scoring will be based on a best 7 of 14 events format with the requirement of attending at least 2 events at each venue (Fort Macleod & YYC). Scoring within each of the above superclasses will be based on PAX/RTP of the applicable class. All of the day’s count as a single event except practice events.


So as that reads, I could attend all events, and only use my best scores from YYC (and none from FM) towards my championship scoring, however, I would need to ATTEND at least two FM events?

It might need to be reworded, but the intent is that a minimum of 2 scores be used from each venue. Similar to last year's championship scoring requirement.

Yeah I figured we were holding over from last year, so we should clean up the wording.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 08, 2018, 01:54:40 PM

Scoring will be based on a best 7 of 14 events format with the requirement of attending at least 2 events at each venue (Fort Macleod & YYC). Scoring within each of the above superclasses will be based on PAX/RTP of the applicable class. All of the day’s count as a single event except practice events.


So as that reads, I could attend all events, and only use my best scores from YYC (and none from FM) towards my championship scoring, however, I would need to ATTEND at least two FM events?

It might need to be reworded, but the intent is that a minimum of 2 scores be used from each venue. Similar to last year's championship scoring requirement.

Yeah I figured we were holding over from last year, so we should clean up the wording.

Fixed
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: PedalFaster on March 08, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
Can we publish times for the non-counted runs as well as the counted runs?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: MurrayPeterson on March 08, 2018, 04:25:28 PM
Can we publish times for the non-counted runs as well as the counted runs?

Always!  Something like this (taken from a "real" test example :) ):

Run data (ordered by car number):
Car# Mbr Rky Class Driver           Car                    Sponsor               
   1 Yes Yes    ES Driver 1          2003 Mazda Miata                             
                   Day 1 Set 1 (11.000)     12.000      13.000    Fun-->  14.000      15.000   
                   Day 1 Set 2  (9.000)      9.000       9.000    Fun-->   8.000       8.000       8.000   
                 Total (set1 only):  11.000
   2  No Yes    AS Driver 2           2007 Infiniti G35x                           
                   Day 1 Set 1  25.000      24.000     (23.000)   Fun-->   9.000       9.000   
                   Day 1 Set 2  (9.000)      9.000       9.000    Fun-->   8.000       8.000   
                 Total (set1 only):  23.000

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: jopete on March 08, 2018, 05:08:20 PM
thanks for putting this in a pinned forum post - no more confusion cause by cut-and-paste errors when setting up an event in MSReg
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Type_Yarr on March 08, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
Can we publish times for the non-counted runs as well as the counted runs?

Always!  Something like this (taken from a "real" test example :) ):

Run data (ordered by car number):
Car# Mbr Rky Class Driver           Car                    Sponsor               
   1 Yes Yes    ES Driver 1          2003 Mazda Miata                             
                   Day 1 Set 1 (11.000)     12.000      13.000    Fun-->  14.000      15.000   
                   Day 1 Set 2  (9.000)      9.000       9.000    Fun-->   8.000       8.000       8.000   
                 Total (set1 only):  11.000
   2  No Yes    AS Driver 2           2007 Infiniti G35x                           
                   Day 1 Set 1  25.000      24.000     (23.000)   Fun-->   9.000       9.000   
                   Day 1 Set 2  (9.000)      9.000       9.000    Fun-->   8.000       8.000   
                 Total (set1 only):  23.000

Looks great Murray!
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Midnightsky on March 10, 2018, 09:49:10 PM
Did we miss out on that new venue Reijo was looking into?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on March 10, 2018, 11:13:11 PM
Did we miss out on that new venue Reijo was looking into?

Nope.  We are still talking to them and, if it works out, we may be adding a few events.  Stay tuned.

R
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: S2000 Adventures on March 13, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
"•   This is a volunteer based sport, in order to drive you must also work, those that don’t work their assignment both in the morning and afternoon will be banned from future events"

Is there a possibility of bringing in external workers (that are not participating in the events) and paying them for their time or giving them a gift card of X amount?

I'm sure most people attending these events wouldn't mind paying a bit extra to have the option NOT to work. They're not working because of some deterrent.

Some of the things that deter people from working are:
-Seeing other people sneak out to get food/gas without being penalized. Leaving events after their last run.
-When conditions aren't ideal and people aren't not dressed appropriately ... an argument can be made that they should've been more prepared but they weren't... they don't want to expose themselves to the elements (rain, strong winds, cold) (they're essentially being forced to deal with poor conditions or get banned from future events). Maybe give these people the option to leave for the day but not get banned?
-Lack of PPE (safety glasses, earplugs, gloves) There is a lot of dust that gets kicked up from passing cars in the YYC lot, even sunglasses don't do too much. Some of the cars were on the loud side (even with noise control that was going on). If stations workers are constantly getting dust in their eyes they want to get out of that situation, they wouldn't be incentivized to stand there. PPE would help.
-Standing/working at certain stations is riskier than others. Workers may not feel safe. Some people don't want to put their life at risk with a car coming at them while they reset the cone.
- etc etc. I'm sure we could go on with many things that deter people and find ways to mitigate them

My point being, no one should be forced to do something they don't want to do. At everyone's day job, people  have the right to refuse work if they are put in poor conditions (subjective) or they feel the work is too dangerous (subjective). Why isn't this right extended to auto cross without consequences?

Maybe something like this was considered in the past and it was deemed unfeasible? Would it increase the event cost to an unsustainable amount if station workers were hired?









Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 13, 2018, 10:20:24 PM
Is there a possibility of bringing in external workers (that are not participating in the events) and paying them for their time or giving them a gift card of X amount?


I'm sure most people attending these events wouldn't mind paying a bit extra to have the option NOT to work. They're not working because of some deterrent.

To run any given run group at any particular event can require as many as 27 workers (18 on-course marshals, 2 timing, 3 grid, 1 gate, 1 starter, 2 sound) not counting course set-up, take down or the other behind the scenes work.

To pay for that many folks to work an entire day would make this proposal very cost prohibitive. If someone is so inclined they are absolutely able to pay someone to cover their own work assignment but that's up to the individual.

Some of the things that deter people from working are:
-Seeing other people sneak out to get food/gas without being penalized. Leaving events after their last run.
-When conditions aren't ideal and people aren't not dressed appropriately ... an argument can be made that they should've been more prepared but they weren't... they don't want to expose themselves to the elements (rain, strong winds, cold) (they're essentially being forced to deal with poor conditions or get banned from future events). Maybe give these people the option to leave for the day but not get banned?
-Lack of PPE (safety glasses, earplugs, gloves) There is a lot of dust that gets kicked up from passing cars in the YYC lot, even sunglasses don't do too much. Some of the cars were on the loud side (even with noise control that was going on). If stations workers are constantly getting dust in their eyes they want to get out of that situation, they wouldn't be incentivized to stand there. PPE would help.
-Standing/working at certain stations is riskier than others. Workers may not feel safe. Some people don't want to put their life at risk with a car coming at them while they reset the cone.

I'll address these in order.

- If folks are sneaking out without working their assignment we need others to bring these people to our attention so that this doesn't happen. We do our best to make sure that those folks working the gate keep an eye to see if it's spectators that are leaving or people that should be working. Keep in mind that if someone ran and worked both in the am and pm it's entirely possible and permissible for them to leave while the third run group is running in the afternoon.
- If people didn't check the forecast and dress accordingly there's really not much that we can do about that, same goes for most outdoor activities. In the event something arises and someone cannot work their assignment if they speak to one of the executives before leaving it's a different scenario than if they simply leave or don't work their assignment.
- The lack of safety glasses is not a concern that I've ever heard before but we do take safety very seriously and this is something we can look into. As for hearing plugs those could actually put someone at more risk of not hearing a quieter vehicle approaching. Gloves we'll leave to individuals to bring with them if they so choose.
- As mentioned, safety is of paramount concern to us, marshal stations are located in very specific areas so as to be in the safest location possible, out of the way of a car that could potentially spin out. We always stress to marshals that their own personal safety is vastly more important than picking up a downed cone and should only run to pick up a cone if it's safe to do so. We strive to have one experienced marshal at each station to help coach less experienced folks on how to pick up downed cones safely. And if someone is still opposed to working on course there are other worker positions that don't require running to pick up downed cones (grid, gate, sound etc.)

My point being, no one should be forced to do something they don't want to do. At everyone's day job, people  have the right to refuse work if they are put in poor conditions (subjective) or they feel the work is too dangerous (subjective). Why isn't this right extended to auto cross without consequences?

We don't force anyone to do anything they feel is dangerous, however as this is a volunteer based sport if you want to compete you need to volunteer your time in one of the worker positions (not necessarily a marshal out on course).
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Zach S on March 14, 2018, 01:17:20 AM
"14.   July 28 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9"

Is it Saturday July 28th or Sunday July 29th?? Trying to book my time off work  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on March 14, 2018, 05:26:16 AM
"14.   July 28 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9"

Is it Saturday July 28th or Sunday July 29th?? Trying to book my time off work  ;)

Good catch!

That should be Sunday, July 29th at Fort Macleod.

I corrected the schedule at the top of this topic.

Reijo
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Bitters on March 14, 2018, 12:52:23 PM
"14.   July 28 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9"

Is it Saturday July 28th or Sunday July 29th?? Trying to book my time off work  ;)

Good catch!

That should be Sunday, July 29th at Fort Macleod.

I corrected the schedule at the top of this topic.

Reijo

On the same note, is the Saturday May 12 @ Fort Macleod date accurate? or is that supposed to be a sunday as well?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 14, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
"14.   July 28 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9"

Is it Saturday July 28th or Sunday July 29th?? Trying to book my time off work  ;)

Good catch!

That should be Sunday, July 29th at Fort Macleod.

I corrected the schedule at the top of this topic.

Reijo

The approved permit from the town reads July 28th not the 29th so it should be Saturday, July 28th

"14.   July 28 Sunday - Fort Macleod - Solo Event #9"

Is it Saturday July 28th or Sunday July 29th?? Trying to book my time off work  ;)

Good catch!

That should be Sunday, July 29th at Fort Macleod.

I corrected the schedule at the top of this topic.

Reijo

On the same note, is the Saturday May 12 @ Fort Macleod date accurate? or is that supposed to be a sunday as well?

Our approved permit reads May 12 so it should be Saturday, May 12th


I will update the schedule
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: rairdan93 on March 19, 2018, 05:08:12 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Canadian Nationals this year? I imagine its out east and I probably won't be able to attend. Just curious when it is and if anyone is going?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Dr Dave on March 19, 2018, 08:34:54 PM
The Oshawa club is hosting, it will be held at an air strip just north of London Ontario on July 6-8 weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Cagare on March 19, 2018, 10:15:01 PM
you
The Oshawa club is hosting, it will be held at an air strip just north of London Ontario on July 6-8 weekend.

Well, it is a combination of a few Ontario clubs, including Oshawa, Barrie and London.  The venue is one that was used by the London club in the past but it was lost.  I am with the London club currently.

Currently we are waiting on shareholder response to have it at that venue but the ownership is offshore, so it is moving slowly for that response.  ASN is needing to sort it very soon, so if it doesn't go this month it will be at another location likely.

Hopefully it works out, it's a good venue.  Supposed to be July 6-8 weekend right now, but again not confirmed.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 20, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
Please note that we've rescinded the 3 run rule, format will be the same as previous years'.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: jopete on March 21, 2018, 04:31:05 PM
We prefer to have NO racing-related insignia/stickers/etc. visible on the exterior of our vehicle when it's on the street.  Can we have an alternate placement for the tech sticker other than the windshield?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Wayne Dyck on March 21, 2018, 07:05:19 PM
I suggest Avery self laminating sheets available at any Staples store. Laminate your tech sticker, then you can tape it to the windshield and remove post event for the street.

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Wayne Dyck on March 21, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
Placement visibility and continuity between vehicles, along this year’s helmet tech sticker placement continuity,  are necessary for easy grid and start worker verification during events.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: MurrayPeterson on March 21, 2018, 09:12:35 PM
BTW -- is the SASC helmet sticker designed to not interfere with SCCA bar code and helmet tech placements?

Jo and I travel a lot, and have to deal with multiple club's tech and bar code sticker requirements for both our car and our helmets.  Laminating the tech sticker and taping it to our windshield is a perfectly acceptable compromise.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 22, 2018, 08:39:05 AM
Placement visibility and continuity between vehicles, along this year’s helmet tech sticker placement continuity,  are necessary for easy grid and start worker verification during events.

Exactly, the grid folks and starter need to be able to easily see the tech sticker.

BTW -- is the SASC helmet sticker designed to not interfere with SCCA bar code and helmet tech placements?


Where it goes on the helmet is up to you, so long as the grid folks and starter can easily see it.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on March 22, 2018, 09:18:35 AM
Helmet sticker is about the same size as the SCCA one ... quite small.

R
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: threeotwo on March 22, 2018, 06:43:55 PM
BTW -- is the SASC helmet sticker designed to not interfere with SCCA bar code and helmet tech placements?

Jo and I travel a lot, and have to deal with multiple club's tech and bar code sticker requirements for both our car and our helmets.  Laminating the tech sticker and taping it to our windshield is a perfectly acceptable compromise.

Helmet sticker is 1.5x1.0".  If you put it to the left, right, top or bottom of your other stickers it should not interfere  8)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: MurrayPeterson on March 22, 2018, 09:14:13 PM
If it doesn't have a bar code, then all is good.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: threeotwo on March 22, 2018, 09:42:16 PM
No worries there.  Just being used to indicate the helmet has been checked and complies with the rules.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 23, 2018, 02:30:58 PM
Registration for the first event is open

msreg.com/april15practice (http://msreg.com/april15practice)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Bitters on March 24, 2018, 10:48:36 AM
fyi ssc is solo spec coupe, not super spec coupe
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: jordan13 on March 24, 2018, 11:47:09 AM
The link to apply for membership on MSReg doesn't work, the only option on there is the April 15 practice....
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Pat S on March 24, 2018, 12:07:33 PM
The link to apply for membership on MSReg doesn't work, the only option on there is the April 15 practice....

Looks like it's working now.

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/southern-alberta-solosport-club-sasc-membership-923684 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/southern-alberta-solosport-club-sasc-membership-923684)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: jordan13 on March 25, 2018, 09:18:18 AM
That's a different link, I was trying the one in the first post in this thread. Anyway it worked, thanks Pat!
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on March 25, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
^ Fixed, thanks
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Ryan S on March 26, 2018, 10:08:22 AM
I put my tech sticker near the top of a piece of card stock, that wedges nicely between the dash and windshield in the lower left corner.  Easy for the starter/grid workers to see, and easy to remove.  I too, do not want any racing stickers etc. on the car for street driving.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on April 05, 2018, 10:35:30 AM
Registration open for April 28 & 29 @ Fort Macleod

April 28 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159)
April 29 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: JamesTCallaghan on April 05, 2018, 11:37:39 AM
Registration open for May 28 & 29 @ Fort Macleod

May 28 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159)
May 29 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270)

I think you mean April 28th and 29th not May.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: nnywg on April 05, 2018, 12:10:40 PM
Depends on when this snow melts and the temps return to normal.   :'(
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on April 05, 2018, 12:42:50 PM
Registration open for May 28 & 29 @ Fort Macleod

May 28 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-novice-school-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-239159)
May 29 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270 (https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-1-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-601270)

I think you mean April 28th and 29th not May.


Yes, you are right - I corrected the original post.  Next events are at Fort Macleod on Sat. April 28 and Sun April 29.

Reijo
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: PedalFaster on April 05, 2018, 01:02:31 PM
Is anyone going to check out the airport beforehand to make sure it isn't still under a meter of snow?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on April 05, 2018, 01:14:51 PM
Is anyone going to check out the airport beforehand to make sure it isn't still under a meter of snow?

They plow the runway so I'm sure it is clear as we speak.  Also, they typically get less snow than Calgary and the melting is more than in Calgary so I'm sure we will be ok by then.

Snow has never been an issue there in the last 8 years.

Reijo
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on April 05, 2018, 01:43:42 PM
Here's a photo from April 30, 2017 at the first event ... pretty typical conditions.  Of course, this year you never know with this climate warming and all!  :)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on April 10, 2018, 10:03:09 PM
At the meeting today it was decided to push the first event back one week to Sunday, April 22nd due to snow still on the ground at the venue.

New link:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-practice-novice-school-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-109084

If you were already registered for April 15th you're automatically signed up for April 22nd.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Midnightsky on April 12, 2018, 02:23:30 PM
At the meeting today it was decided to push the first event back one week to Sunday, April 22nd due to snow still on the ground at the venue.

New link:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-practice-novice-school-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-109084

If you were already registered for April 15th you're automatically signed up for April 22nd.

With more snow today, colder temperatures again, another week might still not be enough ::)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Myz on April 16, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
I was thinking the same as i drove to work this morning ;D
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on April 16, 2018, 10:14:20 AM
Why the negativity?  Within a day or two the snow will be gone.  Did you look at the forecast?  Remember how much it snowed last week and then melted much more?

I have no doubt we're good for next weekend and we could have run something yesterday too.

Think positive.  It works for your driving too!  It's a way of the mind.    :)

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/alberta/calgary
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Robp201 on April 16, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
At the meeting today it was decided to push the first event back one week to Sunday, April 22nd due to snow still on the ground at the venue.

New link:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-practice-novice-school-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-109084

If you were already registered for April 15th you're automatically signed up for April 22nd.

With more snow today, colder temperatures again, another week might still not be enough ::)
Are you entered? If not why do you care if we run or not??
Have you looked at the forecast? you dont think 9, 13 and 14 wouldn't melt whats left?
I am guessing you haven't lived in Alberta long to know that the weather changes so quick lol
When the day comes to decide if they want to move the date they will let us know.
Lets stay positive and burn some rubber!

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Midnightsky on April 16, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
I haven't entered as Im still on studded winters till the end of the month.  I don't mind at all if they run, nothing against it.   Had it stayed colder I liked the idea of doing a winter autocross and probably would have entered.  Even the snow added today will probably be gone by Wednesday.  When I made my initial comment my prediction was another 1-2 weeks of colder temperatures, very happy I was wrong.  As well I have lived in Alberta for 32 years, so I've seen it all.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on April 17, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Was just out at a job site ... most of the snow is gone already ... and the roads are dry in the NW where we got more snow than the airport area.

We will be good to go on the weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on April 20, 2018, 03:43:21 PM
Registration is now open to the public for May 5 & 6 (event 2 & 3).

May 5 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-2-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-597466
May 6 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-3-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-166135
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on April 30, 2018, 12:02:12 PM
Registration open to the public for May 12:

msreg.com/soloevent4 (http://msreg.com/soloevent4)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on May 14, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
All please note that going forward the 60hr cutoff will be revised as follows: Currently if you don't sign up 60hrs+ before the start of the event you are unable to participate. Going forward if you are unable to sign up for an event 60hrs + prior to the start you'll still be able to sign up until 18hrs before the event however you will have to pay the higher fee. We encourage early registration as it makes pre-assigning worker positions, run groups etc. much simpler but we understand that some people may not have their schedules finalized until a little closer to the event, we don't want to exclude those people.

Fee Structure

Fort Macleod Airport
•   $30 – Members1 Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $40 – Members1 Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)
•   $40 – Non-Members Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Non-Members Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)

YYC
•   $40 – Members1 Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Members1 Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)
•   $60 – Non-Members Normal Fee (cutoff is 60hrs before event starts)
•   $80 – Non-Members Late Sign Up Fee (cutoff is 18hrs before event starts)

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on May 22, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
Registration open to the public for June 10:

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-5-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-817643

Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on June 04, 2018, 09:03:01 AM
Registration is open for June 23/24 Event 6 & 7 and Regional Day 1 & 2

June 23 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-wcma-regional-solo-day-1-event-6-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-110067
June 24 - www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-wcma-regional-solo-day-2-event-7-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-051075
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on June 06, 2018, 12:48:20 PM
Reminder to get a discount on entry, register early for this Sunday at Fort Macleod!   MSReg closes on June 7 - tomorrow ...

R
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Rad_Racer on June 06, 2018, 04:36:15 PM
In my confirmation email, it says "Don't forget that tech form" but I can't find any link to a tech form?
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on June 06, 2018, 04:48:39 PM
In my confirmation email, it says "Don't forget that tech form" but I can't find any link to a tech form?

It is in MSREG......just further down the page...have to scroll down.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on June 06, 2018, 04:54:08 PM
You can also get a copy of the tech form from the ASN site:     www.asncanada.com
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: Reijo on June 06, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
And in a pinch we usually have some on-site.    :).   It is better if you have it filled out when you arrive.
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on June 21, 2018, 08:24:56 AM
FYI this note was added to our sound policy to address refunds, this was discussed at the club meeting and agreed to by the executives.

"Drivers of vehicles that blow over within their first two runs will receive their money back should they be unable to make a successful mechanical change and not able to continue their runs in a different vehicle. If the vehicle blows over after the first two runs refunds will not be issued."
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on June 22, 2018, 08:48:19 AM
Registration open for July 1

www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-solo-event-8-yyc-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-643825
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on July 03, 2018, 08:09:33 AM
Registration is open for July 28th

www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-9-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-926874
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on July 03, 2018, 01:37:02 PM
Registration is now open for the Fat Kat 2 Day Challenge:

msreg.com/sasc10-fatkatday1 (http://msreg.com/sasc10-fatkatday1)
msreg.com/fatkatday2 (http://msreg.com/fatkatday2)
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on August 15, 2018, 10:22:37 AM
Registration is open for the next Fort Macleod events:

August 25 (Practice) - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-practice-event-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-116671
August 26 (Event 11) - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-11-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-071631
Title: Re: 2018 - SASC Schedule/Rules/Info
Post by: 94boosted on August 24, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Next three events are now also open (thanks Chris)

September 16 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-12-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-409809
September 23 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-fort-macleod-solo-event-13-airport-southern-alberta-solosport-club-943311
September 30 - https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/sasc-yyc-solo-event-14-old-park-n-jet-southern-alberta-solosport-club-042620