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Title: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on March 11, 2015, 03:52:20 AM
Date:  May 30/31, all day both days ... start at 8 am sharp (UNO)   Sat. Intro, Sun. Comp, Extreme both days.

Cost IS $330 per day (to be confirmed - we are facing some new cost with the low Cdn. dollar and additional government fees - CONFIRMED - MAY 11, 2015).

Intro, Comp and possibly Extreme.

If you have not done one of these schools before it is recommended to progress from Intro to Comp to Extreme although any of them can be taken multiple times to get even more out of them (like I did ... you are taught at whatever level or capability you are at and hence the lessons change to suit you to deal with whatever we need to work on).  You might also say, just like in any sport, you never get away from regularly practicing the basics and refining them continually!  Your basics must be firmly established in order to progress.

We are working on some changes to the curriculum as a part of ongoing development as we speak.

Info on schools here: 
http://www.soloprodrivingschool.com/

Also PM me (here or on one of the other FB or CSCC web sites  -include your real name and email)  to let me know what schools you are interested in, in order to gage interest.


R
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: 94boosted on March 11, 2015, 09:32:39 AM
I've done the Intro once and the Comp about 3-4 times I'd really be interested in taking the extreme.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on March 11, 2015, 12:04:49 PM
I am in for Intro & Comp. I really need a brush up before I take a comp program.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on March 17, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
Bump ... think I have to get word out about the upcoming schools and also to other locals who have not even registered on this site!  :)

We will see about getting some deposits to gage interest further soon.

Thanks,

R
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: James@SpecR on March 17, 2015, 03:04:25 PM
I am potentially interested in comp.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on March 17, 2015, 03:08:41 PM
I'll add at this time that the main reason I endeavour to bring these schools here is to help develop our drivers and get them to another level ... as quickly as possible.

In my experience I have found that the schools are very helpful in spotting some basic and not-so-basic errors that we make (and no one seems to notice at least locally) that are costing us time out on the track and during competitions.  In fact, I consider the schools an essential part or factor in us becoming truly competent in this sport of ours!

The system is very effective and, of course, being taught by US National-calibre drivers who know what it takes to get to the absolute top helps!  Sometimes even seeing and feeling what they do and perhaps what they do differently is an education in itself.  What should a 'really' fast run feel like?

What about all those "finicky" seemingly tiny, little things?  You know, those things that separate the mid-pack from the top?  :)  This is where you can get a handle on those!

And, finally, I note that locally we have started to do awfully well at the SCCA National level:  And I attribute this to a long series of Evo and SoloPro Schools over the years and people dedicated to taking them and not giving up.  The schools work.  You may or may not become a National Champion but, by God, I bet you'll make them work for it!   :)

Speaking of which, the Canadian Nationals will be here in August.  That might be an incentive for some to improve as much as possible beforehand.

It is money well-spent imho, of course, and I believe I can be unbiased while saying that.  You cannot go wrong with these schools.

So, join in, if you can!  The schools are here for YOU, first and foremost!

Reijo

Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: James@SpecR on March 17, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
I'll add at this time that the main reason I endeavour to bring these schools here is to help develop our drivers and get them to another level ... as quickly as possible.

In my experience I have found that the schools are very helpful in spotting some basic and not-so-basic errors that we make (and no one seems to notice at least locally) that are costing us time out on the track and during competitions.  In fact, I consider the schools an essential part or factor in us becoming truly competent in this sport of ours!

The system is very effective and, of course, being taught by US National-calibre drivers who know what it takes to get to the absolute top helps!  Sometimes even seeing and feeling what they do and perhaps what they do differently is an education in itself.  What should a 'really' fast run feel like?

What about all those "finicky" seemingly tiny, little things?  You know, those things that separate the mid-pack from the top?  :)  This is where you can get a handle on those!

And, finally, I note that locally we have started to do awfully well at the SCCA National level:  And I attribute this to a long series of Evo and SoloPro Schools over the years and people dedicated to taking them and not giving up.  The schools work.  You may or may not become a National Champion but, by God, I bet you'll make them work for it!   :)

Speaking of which, the Canadian Nationals will be here in August.  That might be an incentive for some to improve as much as possible beforehand.

It is money well-spent imho, of course, and I believe I can be unbiased while saying that.  You cannot go wrong with these schools.

So, join in, if you can!  The schools are here for YOU, first and foremost!

Reijo

I have never had any driving instruction before, other than my dad when I was first learning to drive.  It would be nice to get some more instruction and perspective because I really like the sport and want to continue.  When I started lapping with track junkies they had someone ride along with me for literally one session and they said "you drive good, you can go out on your own" and that was that.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on March 17, 2015, 08:00:37 PM
I am sure you will learn a lot ...  I  have found even experienced people learn significant "stuff" if they have never taken a school before ... particularly a "higher end" school such as these.

Also, of course, this is not like driving on the street as you know.

R
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: MurrayPeterson on March 17, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
I have taken every school (intro, comp, extreme) that has been offered since they started.  My viewpoint isn't the same as Reijo's.  I see it as an amazing opportunity to be given some very good tools and techniques for the coming year.  Will they make you a faster driver?  Only if you practise them and work hard at executing them.  If you are lazy and expect to be "made faster tomorrow", then you will be disappointed.

Jo and I will (as usual) take every course we can.  If I work hard and apply the lessons, then I can hope to be a bit better this year compared to last year.  Perhaps I'll win that National trophy some year -- or perhaps I'll get too old first.  The race is going to be interesting :)

Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: rayray on March 18, 2015, 08:36:25 AM
I'm 100% down for intro. Also might be interested in Comp but finances might dictate what if I can swing that one.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on April 06, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
Deposits will be taken on Motorsportreg.com shortly ... just putting the pkg together.

Reijo
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: MurrayPeterson on April 06, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
Registration is open for the schools: http://msreg.com/2015SoloProFtMacleod

At this point, we are accpeting a $100 deposit to reserve your spot in the school(s).
You may select one of:

Intro school only (Saturday)
Comp school only (Sunday)
Intro plus Comp school (Saturday and Sunday)
Extreme school (Saturday and Sunday)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on April 06, 2015, 06:15:24 PM
Signed up for Intro and Comp  ;D

(I am excited... so excited)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on April 16, 2015, 03:04:06 PM
Recently I was discussing these schools with Tim and he suggested having a "super" school consisting of the Intro and Comp with a total of 18 students allowed.  He figures that might work better for us and then we can also get 3 instructors:  Tim Aro, Jeff Janzen and myself.

He mentioned in lieu of the Extreme that he may bring data loggers for interest sake and to add a bit to the schools.

Tim, of course, is the owner and amazing instructor for SoloPro.

Last summer I worked with Jeff Janzen at a couple of schools in Winnipeg and Iowa.  He is a very good driver and also appears to be a very good instructor according to what I heard from students at both schools!

So, anyway, if you are still considering the schools, get your name in there and we will begin the final arrangements.  May 30/31 is coming quickly!   :)

Reijo
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 11, 2015, 01:45:09 PM
OK ... I have finalised the costs etc.

Intro:  $330 (Saturday only).
Comp:  $330 (Sunday only).
Extreme:  Not offered this year.

This will be a "Super School" with a Maximum entry of 18 each.  Lunches are provided on-site and we are also looking at bringing some data loggers to play with in lieu of the Extreme School.  There have also been some changes to the schools in the curriculum as per Tim.

I currently know of or have 18 people in the Intro and 17 in the Comp.

Murray will be opening up the final registration on Motorsportreg.com shortly so you can pay your final fees (less your deposit of $100, of course, if you have paid that).

Deposits are still available until May 15, 2015....and will serve as a waiting list if nothing else.  If you do  not get in you will be refunded the full amount.

Instructors are confirmed as Jeff Janzen of Winnipeg, Tim Aro of Virginia and myself.

Questions, concerns etc?  Ask away!  :)

Reijo
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on May 11, 2015, 08:06:58 PM
Any chance there is a dairy free option for lunch, haha   ;D
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 11, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
Usually we have used Subway and you have a choice of their sandwiches which probably can be dairy-free if I recall correctly.

R
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 12, 2015, 08:11:37 AM
We have 18 with deposits for the Intro (full, but no waitlist).

We also have 17 with deposits for the Comp (room for 1 more!).

I would not recommend the Comp for a raw beginner, of course, however if you have considerable experience and/or have taken the Intro, you might want to consider this last spot that is available!

There is a lot of seat time available at each of these schools and practicing some solid techniques now, early in the season, can give you something to work on to perfect for the summer season!

Cheers,

Reijo
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 26, 2015, 08:22:54 AM
There is one spot left for this coming Sunday's (May 31)  SoloPro Driving School​ Competition School at Fort Macleod.  All other spots are spoken and paid for!  Interested in improving your autox "game"?  This may be the answer for you!  Send me a msg or call me ... we can get you in!  Instructors are Tim Aro​ , Jeff Janzen​ and moi! 
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 26, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
Last spot is spoken for.  However, in case there are any last minute cancellations, I will take names for a waiting list (there is no one on the waiting list at this moment).
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Cagare on May 26, 2015, 11:21:32 PM
Reijo, you may have mentioned this before, but any thoughts to how many runs we may see on the intro day?  I believe you mentioned it could be as high as half a season's worth of runs, which would equate to 30-40 runs that day? 

I have a co-driver and we split costs on everything, so I am trying to understand how much tire wear I am going to do that day just in case we need new rubber before the end of the season.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Reijo on May 27, 2015, 02:22:58 AM
Reijo, you may have mentioned this before, but any thoughts to how many runs we may see on the intro day?  I believe you mentioned it could be as high as half a season's worth of runs, which would equate to 30-40 runs that day? 

I have a co-driver and we split costs on everything, so I am trying to understand how much tire wear I am going to do that day just in case we need new rubber before the end of the season.

Yes, you might take 25 or more runs depending on how the day runs ... However they are not really long runs .... and some of your wear will depend on your car, set_up, and how aggressively you drive.

Of course we emphasize smoothness which improves tire wear (one of the lesser advertised and known benefits of being smoother behind the wheel ... and taking the schools.  You have to be smooth to be fast!).

This is something I have noticed:  Tire wear seems to be somewhat less at the schools than during regular competitions.  Maybe people are trying harder to concentrate on technique at the schools rather than outright speed as on regular competition days (and consequently more aggression and, hence, resulting in overdriving)?

On the other hand I do recall some cars wearing front tires down (e.g. FWD/AWD with struts .. poor camber curves and little camber).  If you have one of those it would best to ensure you have enough tire pressure and drive without inducing excessive understeer.

Also if your tires are extremely worn it might be best to replace them beforehand or bring an extra set.   We do quite a few laps ... albeit short ones.

R
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on May 27, 2015, 10:26:28 AM
I am so sick today  :(

WHY!!! PLEASE let me get better before the weekend.... please!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: majormojo on May 27, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
I have a double room booked at the luxurious Red Coat Inn, willing to share if anyone would like to split costs. I'm staying Friday & Saturday nights.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Tuna on May 27, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
I have a double room booked at the luxurious Red Coat Inn, willing to share if anyone would like to split costs. I'm staying Friday & Saturday nights.
I'll be in for Saturday night if it's still available. Mid 40's and safe with small animals and children.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: majormojo on May 28, 2015, 03:46:34 PM
Sure Nick, no problem as long as the small animals and children aren't with you. :)

I'm driving #24 Cayman. We can connect on Saturday.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: rayray on June 01, 2015, 10:04:01 AM
Thanks for putting on a great school! Wish I was there for the Sunday session as well. Next year.....

Definitely have a lot to chew on for the season. I will get that rhythm down for the slaloms!
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: MurrayPeterson on June 01, 2015, 03:03:06 PM
Awesme experience -- thanks guys!

I have some "take aways" for me to work on this year.  I just need to work on it (as usual).

Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: jopete on June 01, 2015, 04:51:34 PM
There was a lot of confusion about run groups and work groups - we need a better way!
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: 94boosted on June 01, 2015, 06:00:03 PM
Great school, thanks Reijo
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: E6Cueman on June 01, 2015, 06:52:46 PM
I had a great time.

Not sure the run group bit needs work... some of us were just distracted by other things.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Canuck on June 01, 2015, 10:55:54 PM
I thought it was fantastic.  Run groups and work groups were crystal in my view.  A well run school all around.  Thanks for bringing this school to southern Alberta.  I really got a lot out of it and I have a lot of learning to do - love the challenge.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Tuna on June 02, 2015, 09:15:18 AM
Run groups and work groups were crystal in my view.
On Sunday I found some of the work groups were sluggish getting into the field. I was first car in two sessions and we gave up waiting and started with only one marshall on the runway both times. As a marshall I ended up working the runway most times and several times it was just Cam and myself doing the entire runway with Jo at the tree/finish gate and Shawn at the side road slalom. We had no radios and no way to ask the work group joining us to come and help on the runway. This happened every work session and at the end of a long day it became other tiresome. Luckily for us group 6 was pretty good at leaving the cones standing.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on June 02, 2015, 09:17:28 AM
Huge thanks to Tim, Reijo and Jeff. What a great school and phenomenal experience to be able to learn from the Pro's. Overall a great group of guys at the school too, I really enjoyed meeting some new faces and catching up with old ones.

As for quick turnaround between shifts.... I think we all need to get skateboards and umbrellas next time:

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0093_zps3h747fhl.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0095_zps5huxlgxf.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Tuna on June 02, 2015, 09:24:59 AM
^ I'm definitely investing in a skateboard after seeing that
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: James@SpecR on June 02, 2015, 10:20:07 AM
^ I'm definitely investing in a skateboard after seeing that

I thought I saw something in the latest fast track regarding not allowing people to have wheeled things on course regardless of time to move around.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on June 02, 2015, 11:20:02 AM
I thought I saw something in the latest fast track regarding not allowing people to have wheeled things on course regardless of time to move around.

Interesting, I went hunting and found this. It doesn't sound like a firm ban though, more of a recommendation.

#16867 Wheeled Personal Conveyances
The Solo Safety Committee strongly encourages all Regions to include in their supplementals a ban on the use of scooters, skate boards, roller skates and any similar type wheeled personal conveyances in any grid area.


personally I am in favor of anything that speeds up shift changes
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: majormojo on June 02, 2015, 11:20:58 AM
Good point. SCCA has a rule that competitors may not be on the course with wheeled thingies. ASN/WCMA doesn't have a specific regulation about that, but some clubs might have it in their supp regs. Usually, the idea is to prevent people from doing a "course walk" at speed. Most clubs are accepting of people using some wheeled means (even cars) of getting to/from far away marshal points on airstrips as long as they are not running the course itself (In fact at Namao we'd ask people to drive to the far stations, or run a shuttle van for marshals).
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Tuna on June 02, 2015, 11:24:46 AM
On a positive note, I came away from this school with a pretty decent understanding of the car's handling and some new tools to help me go faster. I'm looking forward to driving competitively.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: majormojo on June 02, 2015, 11:28:02 AM
I think the fastrack item is a clarification about grid. The regulation about wheeled thingies on course is in the main Solo Rules:

Quote
4.9 CONFLICT OF INTEREST

No person may compete who has pre-run through all or any part of the
course, in or on any wheeled vehicle, except a competitor with a physi-
cal disability that impairs his/her ability to walk may, with the approval
of the Chief Steward, use a wheelchair or similar aid traveling at normal
walking speed to accomplish the requirements of Section 6.3. All event of-
ficials, whether competing in the event or not, must use caution to avoid
individual conflict of interest situations during the event.

Section 6.3 just says that everyone gets a course walk opportunity.

Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on June 02, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
On a positive note, I came away from this school with a pretty decent understanding of the car's handling and some new tools to help me go faster. I'm looking forward to driving competitively.

I cannot believe how fast you were able to get that car around the course by the end of the day

Not just blowing smoke up your skirt either, look at how spot on you were in the pics:

Instructor:
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0194_zpswt6qcszg.jpg)

You:
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0209_zpsemmrjlwa.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Sprockett on June 02, 2015, 03:56:57 PM
FYI The rule about wheeled things you cite is an issue for grid...not transportation around the site.

Also, in general, you can't be on wheels when 'walking' the course but it's also not seen as an issue if you are travelling at normal walking speeds. Even at SCCA Nationals there are many (ok a couple) golf carts on course 'walks' for people with disabilities or injury.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on June 02, 2015, 09:26:02 PM
I've uploaded some pictures for you guys. I have more of each car, but I just cherry picked the best ones

Link:
http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/SportPhreak/slideshow/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School

A few of my favorites:

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0021_zpsjn8fky1j.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0038_zpsfsdrpv6t.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0109_zpsftqjvdcc.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0216_zps6q4z8mxk.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0254_zps1n953r8h.jpg)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah281/SportPhreak/Fiesta/SASC/Solo%20Pro%20School/DSC_0255_zpsc20yklpp.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: majormojo on June 02, 2015, 10:23:29 PM
Great photos, Nick. Loving the new avatar!  8)
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: Tuna on June 03, 2015, 07:08:14 AM
Great photos Nick. I've grabbed the photos of my car and linked them in my build thread on WSC.
Title: Re: 2015 SoloPro Schools
Post by: NickST on June 03, 2015, 09:17:15 AM
Great photos, Nick. Loving the new avatar!  8)

I really wish I could skateboard after seeing that, haha