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Solo => Other Events => Topic started by: teamkickinassphalt on May 10, 2016, 04:05:15 PM
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Good day all, just wondering if anyone would know where I can find a schedule for this years regionals. I have tried my faithful google, but alas no luck.
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As far as I know the WCMA regional series is not yet finalized. I was approached by them to convert one of the CSCC events to a WCMA regional but there were some issues that needed to be resolved regarding the date they chose. I am not sure if there were any other issues or if I'm the one holding it up, but hopefully we'll get things figured out soon!
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Yes, I'm still working on the schedule for the series. I have not heard back from a couple of the clubs yet and we have a couple options to work out for those that have contacted me. I'm hoping to get it done in a week or so.
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Hi Everyone,
Welcome to the 2016 autocross season! Throughout western Canada, your WCMA clubs have a full season of events planned. There are autoslalom events within the region scheduled for every single weekend from now until October! A big thank you to all of the club officials, organizers and volunteers that make this possible. Their efforts are critical to keeping grassroots motorsport alive and thriving in western Canada.
I’m very pleased to be able to announce that we have a seven-event regional autoslalom championship series scheduled for 2016 and that we have some improvements to the sponsorship and cash prize pool for this year.
SCHEDULE
Here is our 2016 WCMA Regional Autoslalom Championship schedule:
26 Jun - RDSCC - Red Deer Westerner
03 Jul - CSCC - Red Deer Westerner
31 Jul - QCMA - Regina
27/28 Aug - SASC - Ft. Macleod (2 days scored)
17/18 Sep - WSCC Winnipeg (2 days scored)
This gives us a total of 7 scored days for the 2016 championship. Competitors will need a minimum of 3 events and will be scored on their best 3 events.
I have created and will endeavor to maintain two Google Calendars for this season. The first contains all events from all WCMA clubs and the other has just the Regional championship dates. Event organizers, please feel free to let me know (solosportdirector@wcma) of any changes to your schedules and I will update these calendars. Competitors, please confirm all dates with the hosting clubs just in case I've missed a change.
All Events:
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=di2edvubl2n7r9274tie7q7mg4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Edmonton (https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=di2edvubl2n7r9274tie7q7mg4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Edmonton)
Regional Championship:
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=1v2nbs9okb49gb8vkpfmifa8vo%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Edmonton (https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=1v2nbs9okb49gb8vkpfmifa8vo%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Edmonton)
SPONSORSHIP
The sponsorship program from Talon Tire continues unchanged for this year. This program has 3 parts:
1. Gift coupons for top finishers at Regional events
For each scored event, we will have 2 Talon Tire coupons available for the top 2 finishers (FTD raw and FTD PAX). I will send the coupons out to each club to give away at the end of the competition day.
2. Rebate coupons
All members of WCMA affiliated clubs are eligible to claim a rebate coupon from Talon Tire. The value of the rebate varies from $50 - $100 depending on the purchase. The coupon is downloadable here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8ekVod3RpdzdSR09RWUNkR0p6YlJSYnhmY18w/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8ekVod3RpdzdSR09RWUNkR0p6YlJSYnhmY18w/view?usp=sharing)
3. Contingency program
The Talon Tire contingency program is available to members of all WCMA club. Rules on the contingency program are in the document below. Simplified, the program is: Run Talon Tire stickers on your car and claim $6 - $22 per podium win in your class during the season.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8Z09qb1ZmZHJhVm5jQ0ppZFVQbHhFN3E5MHBF/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8Z09qb1ZmZHJhVm5jQ0ppZFVQbHhFN3E5MHBF/view?usp=sharing)
Club members can combine one Talon Tire Gift Certificate with a Talon Contingency claim and a tire manufacturer’s Rebate coupon.
Complete rules for the redemption of the Talon Tire Coupons are here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8OFJhMmluQ0ZRVlU/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8OFJhMmluQ0ZRVlU/view?usp=sharing)
CASH PRIZES & TROPHIES
For 2016, we will again feature cash prizes for the Championship class winners. The trophies will be awarded on the same basis as in previous years based on the number of competitors in each superclass and the trophy cost will be paid by WCMA. The cash prizes for the class (superclass) winners will come from the $5/entry levies from the events. That is, ALL of the levies paid by competitors will go into the cash prize pool and be awarded back to the winners. The more entrants in regional championship events we have, the larger the cash pool will be.
I’m committed to helping all of the clubs and competitors in the region to get the most out of this autoslalom season, so if there is anything that I can do or WCMA can help you with, please contact me at solosportdirector@wcma.ca
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I actually wanted to try and make at least 3 of these events, but the CSCC one falls on Canada Day long weekend... and the WSCC and QCMA ones conflict with regular events for the SASC championship schedule.
Have to decide if I want to cut my Canada Day vacation short
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I'm skipping this coming cscc weekend (they killed Sunday as a points day) in favour of taking up the WCMA 3 events to see how I place in the championship :o
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I usually sign up for events if I can get 2 days out of it, I don't care that much about points... just seat time and good company.
I am skipping all of the single day events this year, the only exception is there are a few CSCC events where the RDSCC runs the next day. It is just too much driving for single day events for me.
Looking forward to the 2 day test and tune though. Need to test of some new Koni's that are going in tomorrow!
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It seemed harder than usual to get a good regional series calendar this year. Seemed like everything conflicted with something. I'm just happy to have scheduled as many events as we have. I think the old days of 2-day regionals being the norm are long gone, sadly.
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Well I shifted my vacation by a day so I can make 3 ;D
I would like to make it out to a Winnipeg or Regina event, it is too bad they conflict with our season
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It seemed harder than usual to get a good regional series calendar this year. Seemed like everything conflicted with something. I'm just happy to have scheduled as many events as we have. I think the old days of 2-day regionals being the norm are long gone, sadly.
No kidding - I don't understand why but scheduling ANYTHING this year has been difficult. When it came to booking days at Westerner it seemed like every single one had some kind of problem. I had to juggle one compromise against another constantly.
Sorry the schedule is such a mess this year but let's try to make the best of it! :)
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As far as I could tell on the rdscc website, there is no preregister setup for their club. Is attendance limitations ever a problem and could make it so I wouldn't be able to attend the first WCMA event of the year?
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You are correct, RDSCC does not use online registration. To date, attendance limits have never been a problem. I highly doubt that someone coming from out of town to compete would be turned away.
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I'm pleased to announce that we've added another event to this series. SASC will be hosting events on Aug 27 & 28 and both will be scored in the series. So that's one more opportunity for you to participate in this series and build up your points total. At this time, I don't anticipate changing the scoring from the "best 3 events" format announced earlier.
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I have just opened registration for members of WCMA affiliated clubs for the July 3 event!
http://msreg.com/2016CSCCEVENT3
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A reminder for everyone that the first event in the 2016 series is coming up this weekend as RDSCC hosts the opening event at the Westerner venue in Red Deer on Sunday, June 26. RDSCC uses onsite registration (no online registration) so bring your completed registration and tech forms to the event between 8.00AM and 9.00AM.
Registration form: http://rdscc.ca/Portals/0/Documents/05-04-14%2C%20RDSCC%20Driver%20Registration%20and%20Release.pdf
Self-tech form: http://rdscc.ca/Portals/0/Documents/05-03-14%20SoloSport%20Vehicle%20Technical%20Self-Declaration.pdf
In addition to the invaluable WCMA series points you'll gain from the event, Talon Tire will be providing cash coupons for the top RAW and PAX finishers for the day (value varies from $70-$120 depending on tires purchased).
p.s. If you'd like some extra autox seat time, CSCC is also holding a practice event at the Westerner on Saturday, 25 June. Register here:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/cscc-practice-3-2016-06-25-westerner-park-calgary-sports-car-club-996543
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Sorry I was a day late opening general registration for the July 3 event! I'll leave it open until 8pm SATURDAY JULY 2 to make up for this!
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The second event in our 2016 series is coming up this weekend. We're back at the Westerner in Red Deer as the CSCC hosts event #2. Online registration is available here:
http://msreg.com/2016CSCCEVENT3
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A big thumbs up to the RDSCC for hosting the first regional series event last weekend and for arranging terrific weather as well. I will have regional scores prepared as soon as possible, but in the mean time, please congratulate our top finishers for the day and winners of prize coupons from TalonTire.com:
FTD Raw: Tom K, Nissan GT-R (SSM)
FTD PAX: Stephen H, Mini Cooper (DS)
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Oh poop. Life is taking over. I won't be able to make it July 3rd after :( good luck to all attending.
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That is too bad, at least there are 2 more events in FM on the 27th and 28th so you can meet the minimum 3 events for the WCMA championship.
Hey Jim, any updates on the results for the 26th. Did you end up taking the best run for the morning, or the best of the first 3 runs in the end?
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I haven't calculated the regional results yet, though I did receive the data. Hoping to get to it today or tomorrow. I'm thinking to use only the first three runs, since that was what was announced at the driver's meeting.
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Results from Event 1 are ready! I had to make a couple corrections for classing, but I think that all is correct. Congratulations to all the class leaders; we had 34 competitors at this first event.
Note: There was some confusion regarding which runs were considered "official" because at the driver's meeting it was announced that only the first 3 runs were counting, but the morning heats had 5 runs per group. I want to clarify that for scoring purposes, only the first three runs were considered official runs for regional series points.
See the current standings here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8c1lMbmdlQ1hMN0U/view?usp=sharing
There are two regional series events scheduled for July. The next event is coming up this weekend 03-July, also at the Red Deer Westerner location and hosted by CSCC. Register online via msreg: http://msreg.com/2016CSCCEVENT3
Following that is event #3 hosted by QCMA in Regina on 31-July. Keep an eye on the QCMA facebook page for info on how to register. https://www.facebook.com/QCMA2012
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A question was put to me recently about requirements for club membership at autoslalom events and what it means for the regional series. I'm posting my answer here because the topic can be confusing for newbies and even veterans. Hopefully this sheds some light on how WCMA club events are organized.
The big takeaway regarding club memberships is that most events are open to anyone - clubs will generally charge a premium for non-members to participate, but those non-members are welcome. Members-only events are rare, but do occur from time to time. Many people compete for years without ever taking out a club membership.
Think of the regional series as a "layer" of scoring on top of the regular event scoring. Each WCMA club runs a large number of events each season (usually about 10-12), and typically only one or two of them are designated as being in the regional series. So scoring and competition happen at several levels:
1. The individual event itself. There are winners of the various classes on that specific day and all participants regardless of membership affiliation are competing together. For some people, this is the only level of competition they are interested in and that's OK.
2. Club championships - Most clubs run a season-long championship where points are scored for each event and the championship winners are those with the most points in their class at the end. These club championships are generally only open to members of that club - that's who the series is for, their members. The clubs often have year-end dinners and trophies, paid for from the memberships.
3. Regional championship - This is the series that WCMA organizes. This works much the same as a club championship, but with a few more requirements. In addition to being a member of an affiliated club, competitors must compete in at least 3 events in the series to qualify and since each club runs no more than 2 regional events, members need to participate in events hosted by at least one other club besides their "home" club. That's a main reason for the series - to encourage people to visit other locations and meet with autocrossers outside their local club. The WCMA series provides cash prizes and trophies that are presented at the WCMA annual banquet in October of each year.
Competitors in the regional series must be a member of an affiliated club to qualify which means that one must be a member of one of the WCMA-affiliated clubs to receive points in the WCMA championship. Non-member competitors are of course welcome to come to any event and compete but without a club membership, they will be competing for fame and glory on that one day only and will not be included in the scoring for any championship series. Keep in mind that most annual club memberships are around $50 and pay for themselves in just a few events. If you're keen to compete for season championships and trophies, the way to do that is to join a club.
The current list of WCMA affiliated clubs that run autoslalom events is here:
http://www.wcma.ca/new/solosport/wcma-affiliated-autoslalom-clubs/
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Got enough life stuff done to free up my Sunday, I'll be coming afterall.
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Looks like a busy event; ~40 people are registered online
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We could not get the S2k to fire up ... and work to do anyway so won't make it ... a bit disappointing.
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Thank you to the leaders and members of the Calgary Sports Car Club for hosting the second event in the WCMA regional autoslalom series on Sun 03-July at the Westerner in Red Deer. We had competitors from several different clubs present and some good competition. Just a few drops of rain that thankfully had the decency to wait until after the competitive runs were complete. A great day!
Season championship standings are now updated to include the results from event 2:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8c1lMbmdlQ1hMN0U/view?usp=sharing
Congratulations to all competitors and especially to our Talon Tire FTD prize winners for this event:
FTD Raw: Ryan C, 986 Porsche Turbo (SSP)
FTD Pax: Cam W, 2004 Corvette Z06 (AS)
The coupons awarded are good for $80-$120 (depending on tire choice) from TalonTire.com (http://talontire.com/).
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Here are the series final results (barring any errors I've missed). Congratulations to the following trophy winners this season:
Street
1. Cam Withell
2. Stephen Hui
3. Steffan Adam
Street Prepared
1. Keith Montgomery
Street Mod
1. Tom Kerns
Complete results are below. Green shaded entries are those competitors who qualified for trophies with 3 or more events.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8c1lMbmdlQ1hMN0U/view?usp=sharing
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Those results only include two events. :)
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Hey Jim! Matt R from the CSCC regional and Matthew R from the SASC regionals are the same person. I haven't seen the final results yet but by my calculations I should be ahead of Steffan. So I figure it might be the name thing because I registered for that one event as Matt. Sorry for being a pain. Thanks for all your hard work doing the scoring and putting the series together!
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Hi Matt, I'll look into the issue. Which club are you a member of?
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Thanks Jim! I'm a member of the SASC.
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I see the scores are up now and I must have miss calculated when I tried figuring the scores out myself.
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OK, I fixed up the registration issue and re-calculated the scores. Unfortunately, unless there's a timing mistake you're still 0.007 points behind Steffan in the final score. Way to make it close!
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The scoring for day 1 of Fort Macleod seems to have taken the fastest run of the day and not just from the first 3 runs of the day.
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Looks like Day 2 is scored off of combined runs morning and afternoon and not the best time of the first 3 runs as well.
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See tis thread: http://forums.sascsolo.com/index.php/topic,541.msg4362/topicseen.html#new
I asked about scoring and was told "morning runs only". Nothing was said to me about first 3 runs. Can I please get "the real story" here?
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We only did our 3 regional runs in the morning and then 4 runs in the afternoon. So yes just the morning runs(first 3 runs of the day) and sorry we didn`t clarify that better for you. I attached the results from the http://forums.sascsolo.com/index.php/topic,444.msg4356/topicseen.html#new thread from Day 2 but just WCMA scores for Day 1 were never posted.
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UPdated files sent to Jim just now. First 3 runs only for both days.
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OK, I fixed up the registration issue and re-calculated the scores. Unfortunately, unless there's a timing mistake you're still 0.007 points behind Steffan in the final score. Way to make it close!
Matt!!! wow 0.007. i know we were close this year but wow... good racing!!
or wait is this still up in the air?
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Results have been updated with some name and scoring corrections. Thanks to MurrayP for helping me sort out the scoring issue.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B64v-WnLWmt8c1lMbmdlQ1hMN0U/view?usp=sharing
If I don't hear about any other corrections, these will be the official results as of 01-Oct. Thanks to everyone for your participation this year. The cash prizes this year will be the following:
1st Place: $280.00
2nd Place: 140.00
3rd Place: $70.00
The trophies and cash prizes will be awarded at the WCMA Annual General Meeting in Airdrie, AB on 15-Oct-2016.
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Hey Murray would you be able to post the results for the first 3 runs of day 1 and 2 of the SASC regionals that you sent Jim? I'm curious to see why the results of the first 3 runs that were originally posted for Day 2 of fort macleod have different scores from Jims results for the wcma? It shows me with 96.055 points and the regional results show me with 95.721. Day one Cams best time was 63.836 raw in the morning and i ran 66.822 raw which should give me over 97 points in pax and it shows 96.421 on the regional results. I'm sorry for being a pain but I'm just trying to understand why the scores are different and at the moment I really feel like I'm getting ripped off. Reijo clearly stated at the SASC regionals that only the first 3 runs of the day would be scored and the WCMA results still show the scores of the total day results (including afternoon runs).
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I looked, and the files I sent Jim showed you with PAX scores of 97.761 on the 27th, and 96.055 on the 28th.
Here are the text scores as well as the csv files sent to Jim:
http://members.shaw.ca/murray.autocross/2016/wcma/
I'll send this link to Jim as well.
Edit: I did find a csv file with erroneous numbers in my folder, so the scoring error is probably mine. Sorry about that.
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I have made the corrections that Murray sent to me. That puts Matt R into 3rd place in Street group (sorry Steffan...). Congrats, Matt.
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Thank you guys for looking into it!!!
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Wooooo!!!! good on ya matt!! when we are running that close stuff like this is bound to happen good job clearing it all up. i'm just as happy with 4th as i am with third. just 70bucks poorer... and now am not invited to the WCMA Dinner :-[ wich was more of what i was looking forward to lol !!!
i'm not sure how much i'll be able to auto x for the next few years and this was a good push to finish it all off!!! but i'm looking forward to trying to do it all again in the years to come!
and again congrats matt!!!
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Just to clarify, everyone is invited to the WCMA AGM and Awards Dinner. You don't have to be a trophy winner to attend.