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Solo => Technical Talk => Topic started by: Terry Johns on September 10, 2017, 09:04:55 AM
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As a general rule when is the best time to buy these tyres, one world assume in the depths of winter. I see Costco is doing a set of four 215x45 17 installed and balanced, for $623.00 sounds reasonable to me, any other suggestions.
Im also thinking of going up in size. Stock tire is 205x45 17, my current RE71 R are 215x45 17, thinking of going to 225x45 17 will defiantly give the car more rubber on the road, will give it a small amount of top end speed in 2nd gear, but will probably have more side wall flex and not sure if the 225 is too wide on a 7 inch rim, the other issue is will they rub ?
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I've heard that they will go off to a point when stored over winter. I'd probably look at buying them around March next year for my set, and I probably will order two sets for the season to start with.
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Multiple tests by Andy Hollis shows that street tires will give you no improvement in grip once the tread width exceeds the rim width. The only advantage going up a size would be the top end speed, but increasing the diameter from 24.7 inches up to 25.0 inches is pretty minor in my opinion.
I went from 225 down to 215 on the ND, and honestly cannot detect any reduction in performance.
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I've heard that they will go off to a point when stored over winter. I'd probably look at buying them around March next year for my set, and I probably will order two sets for the season to start with.
My experience is that once you start using them (heat cycling), they won't survive the winter. I have had a set that was never used, and it went through a winter in our basement without a problem.
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I have competed on a couple sets (different other people's cars) on BFG's from the previous year and they had both gone off ... like hockey pucks. Cars were both from Portland as a matter of fact ... so no serious cold over there and I think at least one or both had been stored for winter but I don't know details so maybe I should not say much.
On the other hand I 've driven on some others over the years with no noticeable (serious anyway) degradation ... but the tires were stored properly in a warmish garage (e.g. tires did not freeze).
R-compounds are a different story however.
Also, you could use some Formula V on old tires and bring back some life.....as long as they are not completely dead.
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Thanks to everyone for the great advice, interesting Murray that you didn't notice any difference with the 215 compared with the 225, they are also cheaper.
My tires are stored in a heated garage. The Miata is real kind on tires, I'm on my second season with them, 7 events last years 3 so for this year, I think they probably have another 4 events left. I flipped them at the end of last season, and I didn't notice any difference in grip after the winter storage.
I take the advice and wait till the spring.
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Wow I never knew keeping tires over a winter stored would have any negative consequences. What are most people doing with sets that half about half a life's worth of runs heading into the winter?
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Another thing that is common with slicks is to wrap them in plastic when not in use. I wrap mine and store them indoors over the winter. https://www.staples.ca/en/Staples-Pre-Stretched-Hybrid-Hand-Film-38G-14-1-2-X-1450-4-Rolls-Case/product_1411713_2-CA_1_20001
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There's nothing wrong with storing tyres, it's storing them in cold storage facilities that's the problem.
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Wow I never knew keeping tires over a winter stored would have any negative consequences. What are most people doing with sets that half about half a life's worth of runs heading into the winter?
https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/yokohama-s-drives-on-pch-1/proper-storage-techniques-for-your-tires-and-wheels
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I guess the Tire rack should know, must say I've never gone to that much trouble, but great suggestions, thanks for the link.
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I'm getting in on this a little late.
Does this mean my tires will be useless come next season even if they're stored in my heated garage, or is it only negatively impacted if stored out in the cold.
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I think YMMV. I have had good luck and bad luck, always with tires stored in the basement, carefully wrapped.
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For what it's worth, I ran a lot of the year on tires that sat un-wrapped in my 'heated' (10C) garage all winter and never felt I was at a disadvantage. My tires will again be sitting on my shelf in the same garage this winter. YMMV.
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If you have the space, I've seen people wrap tires up and then store them in a spare bedroom living room, or in my case when I was a bachelor, front hall. :)