car classing by manufacturer

[nnywg]

CSP Mustang => ESP

Dude!  Don't be like that.  With no competition in ESP for 2 years I can never feel bad about my results!

[trophy]

I see we have a Caymen GT4 at this weekends event, C Street, really !

At least on the track, stock they are an understeering pig...  Takes quite alot of mods to get them to turn in crisply...  Will be very interesting to see how it performs on Sunday.

[Sprockett]

I see we have a Caymen GT4 at this weekends event, C Street, really !

At least on the track, stock they are an understeering pig...  Takes quite alot of mods to get them to turn in crisply...  Will be very interesting to see how it performs on Sunday.

Adjustable sway bars on both ends, massive camber adjustment range front and rear, perfect 50/50 weight distribution...sound like a stock/street class nightmare!

Jokes aside, I don't know the owner but the cars have proven to be one of the quickest classed for street...

[trophy]

I see we have a Caymen GT4 at this weekends event, C Street, really !

At least on the track, stock they are an understeering pig...  Takes quite alot of mods to get them to turn in crisply...  Will be very interesting to see how it performs on Sunday.

Adjustable sway bars on both ends, massive camber adjustment range front and rear, perfect 50/50 weight distribution...sound like a stock/street class nightmare!

Jokes aside, I don't know the owner but the cars have proven to be one of the quickest classed for street...

I have no experience with autocrossing these cars, however do know what they need for the track.

Don't get me wrong, out of the box they are very good, and i have no doubt they class well, however there is a cost.  They are only getting one weekend out of a set of front tires (1 tank of gas) And at approx $650 a tire it can get very expensive.

They do have some camber adjustment front and rear, however the factory max is variable with most less that 1.5 degrees, some have been higher.  However as you add more camber you need to adjust castor and the stock setup does not allow enough castor adjustment to compensate for the camber.  The camber adjustment adds a large amount of castor, making the front of the car quite dull, the only way to adjust is aftermarket monoballed links...  Also as you add camber beyond 1.5 degrees, you end-up running out of thread on the tie rods, necessitating aftermarket tie rods.  The rear has similar issues.

I have been working on a friends car to get it dialed in for the track, so far i think he is at around $6k in parts to get the aggressive alignment he wants for the track -2.5 front, -2.2 rear and still be able to keep the rest of the alignment numbers in spec.

[trophy]

So with all the conversations on how to run the YYC event this Sunday more smoothly can someone help me classify my car so that I help do my part by not having my car reclassified on the day.. I really don't care what class I am in, but not I am not understanding the rules etc to class the car correctly.

Car specs as follows:

1995 993 Carrera 2 3.6 litre NA - Base Classification - B Street

Modifications:
Engine & Drivetrain:

4.0 liter NA Engine - big cams etc.
ITB Intake
Headers, no cats, center style exhaust (not stock outlets)
LSD
Stoptech big brakes
KW Coil Over suspension
Monoball camber plates
larger adjustable swaybars (monoball links)
Monoball rear controll arm bushings and links
997 Cup electric powersteering

Body/Wheels:

993 RSCS / 993 GT2 Body kit
18x 8.5" and 18x 10.5" wheels (Stock 17x7.5 and 17x9)

Interior:

Partial (most) carpet removed
Stock seats removed
Rear seats removed
airbags and dash knee pad removed, non-airbag steering wheel
Carbon/kevlar race seats installed
5pt Harnesses
Rollbar


Any help to class the car and do my bit to help on Sunday is appreciated

[Stuart]

I believe with the engine work and rear seat removal you will likely be in E Mod.

[trophy]

I believe with the engine work and rear seat removal you will likely be in E Mod.

Thanks Stuart...

[Sprockett]

While Stuart is correct that the car is legal for EM the 'first' class it is for sure legal for XP.

[Stuart]

While Stuart is correct that the car is legal for EM the 'first' class it is for sure legal for XP.

Forgot about that crazy class 

[Reijo]

Re-install the carpet and back seat and SSM might be a better class.  Not sure about cats removed???   Would have to look at the rules I guess.

R

[trophy]

No chance to reinstall carpets, rear seats etc...  They are all glued in at the factory and are destroyed upon removal...

Looks like XP is the most appropriate class, Boy are the classifications confusing and complex...

Thanks everyone, looking forward to meeting you guys on Sunday..