Championship Scoring

[nnywg]

Thanks Murray for the updated overalls.  Hope Packwood was fun.

Now that 7 events have unfolded I wonder if you wanted a little challenge for your scorekeeping scripts.  As I understand it, championship this year is taking at least 2 times from each venue.  Does your best 7 take that in to account? 

I'm at the bottom of the barrel in the championship so makes no difference to me.  But I'm bored at work and thinking about how to efficiently do the formulas to spit that information out.

[MurrayPeterson]

As I read the rules, the requirement is to attend at least 2 events at each venue.  However, the overall scores don't require that you use 2 scores from each venue.  Do you (or club execs) read this differently?

[Bitters]

Interesting.... I had always assumed it to be as Gwynn thought (use at least two scores from each venue within your seven events), but from the language used in the schedule ("The championship will be scored as a best 7 of 13 events with a minimum requirement of 2 events at each venue.") there doesn't seem to be anything that supports it.

[nnywg]

10-4, I went back and re-read that just now and agree - intent was for participation but it doesn't dictate using scores from those events.

We could still have the situation where someone gets 7 events without going twice to each venue though.

[Reijo]

10-4, I went back and re-read that just now and agree - intent was for participation but it doesn't dictate using scores from those events.

We could still have the situation where someone gets 7 events without going twice to each venue though.

That is a good point.  And what then?  Their scores don't count then because they are disqualified since they did not do 2 events at each venue?

Actually I'm not sure how else you could handle it other than reduce their eligible scoring events by however many they are missing:  That would sound more fair.  E.g. if you have only 1 event at Red Deer, then you would be scored out of 6 events and not 7.

Reijo

[nnywg]

Sounds like a meeting discussion topic 

[94boosted]

Sounds like a meeting discussion topic 

Execs are discussing now, will update once we've reached a consensus.

[Type_Yarr]

In addition to encouraging participation at each venue, I remember we discussed that a 2 best scores from each venue requirement might help balance the relative performance of the classes throughout the championship (ie. high horsepower cars may tend to do better at Fort Macleod, while shorter wheelbase cars may tend to do better at Westerner). That benefit would be lost if the championship is scored as best 7, and not as best 2 at each venue plus one.

[Midnightsky]

In addition to encouraging participation at each venue, I remember we discussed that a 2 best scores from each venue requirement might help balance the relative performance of the classes throughout the championship (ie. high horsepower cars may tend to do better at Fort Macleod, while shorter wheelbase cars may tend to do better at Westerner). That benefit would be lost if the championship is scored as best 7, and not as best 2 at each venue plus one.

I like this, creates and more balanced environment for competition

[94boosted]

We discussed this at the meeting last night. Scoring will be based on your best two scores from each venue plus your next best score from whichever venue it may be to make up the best 7 of 12 format.

[MurrayPeterson]

Thanks Murray for the updated overalls.  Hope Packwood was fun.

Now that 7 events have unfolded I wonder if you wanted a little challenge for your scorekeeping scripts.  As I understand it, championship this year is taking at least 2 times from each venue.  Does your best 7 take that in to account? 

I'm at the bottom of the barrel in the championship so makes no difference to me.  But I'm bored at work and thinking about how to efficiently do the formulas to spit that information out.

Feel free to take this one and run with it.  My scorekeeping app isn't a script, it's written in C#, and it's going to be a fair amount of work to modify it this way.  It's probably easier for someone to take the existing score file and script in the special rules.

[nnywg]

I'd just write a separate function all together that checks if 2 events at each location have been met.  Ignores the scores altogether.  Basically an extra column on the left of the overall scores page with a Y/N.

I don't code though, so can't really help in that regard.  Outside of Excel I'm useless (and my so-so Engineering school made us take a Fortran course in the mid 2000s, rather than something anyone uses).

[MurrayPeterson]

I don't think that strategy will work, since the current scoring picks the best 7 scores, regardless of the venue.  You would end up with drivers that use less than 2 scores from a venue.

What is needed is something along the line of:

0. Mark every score with a venue
1. Sort all scores from driver, from best at top to worst on bottom
2. Pick best 2 from venue 1, starting at top
3. Pick best 2 from venue 2, starting at top
4. Pick best 2 from venue 3, starting at top
5. Pick best score not yet picked in previous 6
6. Add 7 picked scores for a total score for this driver
7. Repeat for all drivers and sort drivers in order (PAX)
8. Repeat for all drivers and sort drivers in order (RAW)
9. Repeat for all drivers and sort drivers in order (rookie PAX)
10. Repeat for all drivers and sort drivers in order (rookie RAW)

[Bitters]

I was telling Murray earlier, but I have this built in excel already and can be a band-aid solution in the meantime. Just need the data as shown in the current format for overall that Murray publishes.

[nnywg]

I don't think that strategy will work...

Oh yeah, didn't see the decision was made above your post.  Toss what I said.