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Cam's Corvette [...] is capable of winning BS at the SCCA Nationals.
Quote from: apexcone on September 19, 2017, 12:24:45 PMMy suggestion is after the event is over, we get the top 2 guys in PAX, (probably Ryan or Cam) and let them do their thing in my car. If they equal their PAX time in my car I will retract my statements and admit defeat. I will choose the event just in case the top 2 PAX winners are sand bagging. The issue for me is about course design, HP & PAX not creating a level playing field. That experiment's doomed to fail, because if PAX works correctly, Ryan and Cam won't be able to match their PAX times in your car. Why? Because Ryan and Cam are each driving fully prepped, class-leading cars. Conversely, you're in the wrong car (you're in an NC Miata, but the class-leading car in CS is the ND Miata, so the PAX is based on it), the wrong model car (you've got a PRHT Miata, and the PRHT mechanism adds about 75 lbs. to the car, all up high), and your car's not fully prepped (a full prep NC would have fancy shocks, lightweight wheels, a lightweight exhaust). I'd expect these factors to result in times very roughly 0.5-1.0 seconds slower than those of a fully prepped CS ND Miata.Furthermore, no one, not even Ryan and Cam, can jump into a strange car and immediately drive it to its full potential.*Furthermore*, no one's saying that we don't sometimes have power-intensive courses. We're just disagreeing with your contention that *all* courses are power-intensive courses. If you cherry-pick a power-intensive course, that will defeat the purpose.You've basically designed a "test" that's impossible for you to fail. I don't know what that would prove.
My suggestion is after the event is over, we get the top 2 guys in PAX, (probably Ryan or Cam) and let them do their thing in my car. If they equal their PAX time in my car I will retract my statements and admit defeat. I will choose the event just in case the top 2 PAX winners are sand bagging. The issue for me is about course design, HP & PAX not creating a level playing field.
Quote from: Reijo on September 19, 2017, 12:47:42 PMCam's Corvette [...] is capable of winning BS at the SCCA Nationals. I should hope so since Cam's car runs in AS.
The issue for me is about course design, HP & PAX not creating a level playing field.
Your quite correct about my car not being fully prepped. So maybe Murray would be kind enough to lend his (fully prepped car)
PAX has an impossible job and cannot create a perfectly level playing field. We should all just ignore it.
But all systems are flawed. An AP1 S2000 is in the same class (BS) as an AP2 and a C5 Corvette. Who needs PAX for screwy results when you can get the same thing without PAX?
That is the flaw in my opinion, outside of street class your car needs to be setup for only the purpose of Auto X which isn't a "street" class in my opinion.