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Ice Car
« on: March 07, 2017, 07:58:23 AM »
Thinking of getting a winter Ice Car for next years events. A few questions:

1. Best car, value for money. Under 5k, WRX Wagon ???
2. What sort of tyres & studs are the most suitable ??
3. Do cars run in similar classes, eg: Street, or is a free for all ??

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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 08:05:10 AM »
Are you thinking about the Ice Dice series run by CSCC?  If so, here are the rules for this year's events, including classes and tires: https://cscc.speedracer.ca/forums/rallyx-news/2017-cscc-ice-dice-series/

Edmonton Rally club also runs rallycross events.  This is a quick summary of their classing rules: http://www.edmontonrallyclub.ca/new/?page_id=14


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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 09:59:31 AM »
For Ice Dice, the classes are AWD, RWD and FWD, each one has studded and non studded class. Studded rules allow 3.5mm of protrusion for the studs. I ran Westlake SW606 with 3.5mm studs this year on a 1998 WRX STi Wagon and it proved to be a winning combination.

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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 11:49:10 AM »
With respect to studded tires here's my guideline for stud length in for the 2017 series:
  • 1.5mm studs - if you would like to also use the tire on the street
  • 2.5mm studs - if you plan on using the tire over multiple seasons of ice racing
  • 3.5mm studs - if you absolutely want to have the best possible performance but are willing to accept that the studs may bend and become "longer" as a result; i.e. tires that may have been legal at the start of the day could be subject to disqualification later in the day. The tire will progressively start throwing studs after year 2.

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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 07:09:39 AM »
Thanks.

I couldn't see any reference to cars with mods, eg: suspension, tune, brakes.
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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 07:22:06 AM »
I don't think there are any real regulations in that regard... at least not in the same way as solo 2. 

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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 07:43:59 AM »
Thanks  :)
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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 09:21:50 AM »
I also ran westlake with 3.5mm studs for last three rounds.  A significant improvement for us over the Nokian Hakka 8's that i was using previously for both street and dice.

I learnt that FWD Studded is a tough class....


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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 06:37:09 AM »
Whats tough about the FWD Studded class.  My present thoughts a WRX Wagon
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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 07:20:58 AM »
It was just a very fast and competitive class with experienced drivers. 

The real message is, and I'm a complete convert, get a set of street winters and set of real good ice race tires with the 3.5mm studs.

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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 08:52:32 PM »
Hi Terry, I'm looking at selling my WRX wagon some time soon. Maybe we can talk via PM?
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Re: Ice Car
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 09:09:54 PM »
You should come out and run on Sunday, Terry.   Just get a taste of the ìce`.....

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